pataphysics/ bikes, Bosse-de-Nage
Jon Ford
jonmfordster@hotmail.com
Wed, 09 Jan 2002 15:57:09 -0800
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<P>Bicycles and Shattuck? Or Alfred Jarry? I recall Jarry loved cycling, and designed a whimsical one for not just two but for a whole mob of cyclists. That is what to which you perhaps refer, o wise philosopher, but a two-some bike is quite enough pour moi.. You have been dubbed, o bubba, the most pataphysical of ghettoites; and surely your totem must be that of Bosse-de-Nage, about whom to sage portuguesian Jim-Bill has questioned me. I can only direct you to Amazon .com for a lovely jpeg of a dog-faced baboon, the cover of Sipilowsky's excellent "A Primate's Memoir." Following is is a selection from Jarry's fantasy novel , "Dr. Faustroll," in which he enlarges on the origins Platonian correlations of Bosse-de-Nage:</P>
<P>CONCERNING THE DOGFACED BABOON<BR>BOSSE-DE-NAGE, WHO KNEW NO HUMAN WORDS<BR>BUT "HA HA"
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<CENTER>To Christian Beck</CENTER>
<P><FONT size=2>Hey, you, said Giromon gravely; as for you, I'll take your robe for a storm-sail; your legs for masts, your arms for yardarms; your body for the hull, and I'll f . . . well pitch you into the water with six inches of steel in your stomach for ballast.... And since, when you are a ship, it's your fat head which will serve as a figurehead, then I shall baptize you: the dirty b . .
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<CENTER>- Eugene Sue, The Salamander (le pichon joueic deis diables)</CENTER></FONT>
<P>Bosse-de-Nage was a dogfaced baboon less cyno- than hydro cephalous, and, as a result of this blemish, less intelligent than his fellows. The red and blue callosity which they sport on their buttocks was, in his case, displaced by Faustroll, by means of some strange medication, and grafted on to his cheeks, azurine on one, scarlet on the other, so that his flat face was a tricolor. <BR>Not content with this, the good doctor wanted to teach him to speak; and if Bosse-de-Nage (so named because of the double protuberance of the cheeks described above) was not com- pletely familiar with the French language, he could pronounce fairly correctly a few words of Belgian, calling the life belt hanging at the stern of Faustroll's skiff "swimming-bladder with inscription thereon," but more often he enunciated a tautological monosyllable: <BR>"Ha ha," he said in French; and he added nothing more. <BR>This character will prove very useful during the course of this book, to punctuate some of its overlong speeches: in the manner of Victor Hugo (<I>The Burgraves</I>, part I, sc. 2):
<P>And is that all? <C>- Nay, listen yet:</C> And Plato, in various passages: <PRE> Thou speakest truth, he replies.
It is true.
It is very true.
It is clear, he replies, even to a blind man.
It is obvious.
It is an obvious fact.
That is so.
It seems.
That is also my opinion.
It does in fact appear to be so.
That is so, he replies.
I am also of that persuasion.
Absolutely, he replies.
Thou speakest wisely.
Well.
Certainly, indeed.
I recall.
Yes.
It is thus.
I think so, and most strongly.
I agree.
Very right.
That is doubtless right, he replies.
That is true, he replics.
That is indeed nccessary.
By all means.
By all means indeed.
By all manner of means.
We admit it.
It is absolutely necessary.
Very much.
Very much indeed, in fact.
That is logical, indeed.
How could that be so?
How could that be otherwise?
How could it be otherwise?
What then?
What?
Thou speakest truth.
How true that seems.
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<DIV></DIV>>From: "Wayne Johnson" <CADAOBH2@BRGNET.COM>
<DIV></DIV>>To: "Jon Ford" <JONMFORDSTER@HOTMAIL.COM>
<DIV></DIV>>Subject: RE: pataphysics
<DIV></DIV>>Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2002 11:32:31 -0500
<DIV></DIV>>
<DIV></DIV>>So, Jon, which bicycle did you favor?
<DIV></DIV>>
<DIV></DIV>>B
<DIV></DIV>>
<DIV></DIV>>-----Original Message-----
<DIV></DIV>>From: austin-ghetto-list-admin@pairlist.net
<DIV></DIV>>[mailto:austin-ghetto-list-admin@pairlist.net]On Behalf Of Jon Ford
<DIV></DIV>>Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 4:38 PM
<DIV></DIV>>To: strongjim@yahoo.com; cadaobh2@brgnet.com;
<DIV></DIV>>austin-ghetto-list@pairlist.net
<DIV></DIV>>Subject: pataphysics
<DIV></DIV>>
<DIV></DIV>>Of course, Jim-bo, I knew Shattuck well, and attended his great party for
<DIV></DIV>>Alain-Robbe Grillet, and put on my own conference on Pataphysics in my time
<DIV></DIV>>at UT at which the red-bearded one spoke, and have staged Jarry's plays,
<DIV></DIV>>have most of Jarry's works, translated the works of Rene Daumal, etc. It is
<DIV></DIV>>"les autres" who need to be enlightened on this subject if you are to
<DIV></DIV>>introduce it in these regions of the cyber. And that web page was in
<DIV></DIV>>Portuguese! He-hah.
<DIV></DIV>>
<DIV></DIV>>Jon
<DIV></DIV>>
<DIV></DIV>>
<DIV></DIV>> >From: Jim Strong <STRONGJIM@YAHOO.COM>
<DIV></DIV>> >To: Jon Ford <JONMFORDSTER@HOTMAIL.COM>, cadaobh2@brgnet.com,
<DIV></DIV>> >austin-ghetto-list@pairlist.net
<DIV></DIV>> >Subject: RE: Manson-Osama connection?
<DIV></DIV>> >Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2002 01:42:02 -0800 (PST)
<DIV></DIV>> >
<DIV></DIV>> >Surely Fordster, you have not forgotten that our
<DIV></DIV>> >esteemed UT English instructor Roger Shattuck held the
<DIV></DIV>> >North American Chair of Pornosophy in the College du
<DIV></DIV>> >Pataphysique? Perhaps you were too Paisano-crazed to
<DIV></DIV>> >remember his ramblings at the parties about that
<DIV></DIV>> >tremendous responsibility that had been "thrust" upon
<DIV></DIV>> >him?
<DIV></DIV>> >-------------------------------------------------
<DIV></DIV>> >The "weird" web page you cite references some of the
<DIV></DIV>> >same material (including some background on the famous
<DIV></DIV>> >Jean-Paul Poulhan quote) that is found in the infamous
<DIV></DIV>> >Evergreen Review edition on Pataphysics that came out
<DIV></DIV>> >in the early 60's. I think it may even have had a
<DIV></DIV>> >piece by Shattuck in it???
<DIV></DIV>> >--------------------------------------------------
<DIV></DIV>> >I "thank" Bubba's point is - in and of itself - a
<DIV></DIV>> >Pataphysical one, and appropriately wicked. In fact, I
<DIV></DIV>> >have come to the conclusion that Bubba is a rare jewel
<DIV></DIV>> >- although not one who occupies the central part of
<DIV></DIV>> >the Lotus sitting directly beside Lord Buddha - (and a
<DIV></DIV>> >Certified Hoot as well). To quote Neil Young's song
<DIV></DIV>> >(modified for gender) "Long May He Run."
<DIV></DIV>> >---------------------------------------------------
<DIV></DIV>> >I think ole J.P. Sartre handled the existence thing
<DIV></DIV>> >purt well in "L'etrat et le Neant," non?
<DIV></DIV>> >cf: http://www.multimania.com/nrub/existenceautrui.htm
<DIV></DIV>> >---------------------------------------------------
<DIV></DIV>> >Now that there page is in Frenchie - not Portagee,
<DIV></DIV>> >Fordster.
<DIV></DIV>> >---------------------------------------------------
<DIV></DIV>> >Finally, to be a true "Experte in Matiere de
<DIV></DIV>> >Pataphysique," Jon, you must have owned and driven a
<DIV></DIV>> >Renault 4-CV for at least 18 months and have replaced
<DIV></DIV>> >the trans-axel at least twice during that time.
<DIV></DIV>> >----------------------------------------------------
<DIV></DIV>> >As fer the vet'rans, I fall back upon my ability to
<DIV></DIV>> >quote Red Sovine lyrics at length for protection, and
<DIV></DIV>> >I hope you are not including the pretentious Persian
<DIV></DIV>> >hordes of Saddam H in the descriptor "Arab." As one of
<DIV></DIV>> >my close friends Skip the LRRP from the Nam would say,
<DIV></DIV>> >"it's all a bunch of shit." I don't know many people
<DIV></DIV>> >who have been through it though, who would care to
<DIV></DIV>> >describe themselves as any kind of "killer
<DIV></DIV>> >extraoridinare."
<DIV></DIV>> >----------------------------------------------------
<DIV></DIV>> >War itself is the ultimate absurdist experience. It
<DIV></DIV>> >doesn't really prove, justify or sanctify anything -
<DIV></DIV>> >it just tends to rearrange boundaries and hegemonies,
<DIV></DIV>> >and to remove real or perceived "threats" (from the
<DIV></DIV>> >"victor's" perspective). The characterizations of a
<DIV></DIV>> >war being just or necessary or honorable are the
<DIV></DIV>> >icings we put on that cake based upon our own beliefs.
<DIV></DIV>> >---------------------------
<DIV></DIV>> >;&>
<DIV></DIV>> >Yours humbly
<DIV></DIV>> >Billy Jim [aka Ubu Roi Don Goethe-Grosse]
<DIV></DIV>> >---------------------------
<DIV></DIV>> >
<DIV></DIV>> >
<DIV></DIV>> >--- Jon Ford <JONMFORDSTER@HOTMAIL.COM>wrote:
<DIV></DIV>> > > I come home from my exclusive seminar on "Say Know
<DIV></DIV>> > > to Drugs" at which I
<DIV></DIV>> > > learned about a famous Hollywood director known to
<DIV></DIV>> > > sit naked before a
<DIV></DIV>> > > full-length mirror feeding his anus cocaine with a
<DIV></DIV>> > > tiny spoon, and what do I
<DIV></DIV>> > > find? Even more madness. Buba seems to be making
<DIV></DIV>> > > some existenial pun on
<DIV></DIV>> > > "exit" (as in "No Exit"?) and "exist" (as in being
<DIV></DIV>> > > and non-being?)Or maybe
<DIV></DIV>> > > he just can't spell. Both Manson and Osama have
<DIV></DIV>> > > "exited" but so far as I
<DIV></DIV>> > > know they both presently exist-- Manson in jail,
<DIV></DIV>> > > Osama most likely in
<DIV></DIV>> > > Pakistan.Even if they are both dead. they will
<DIV></DIV>> > > continue to exist in our
<DIV></DIV>> > > hearts( or elsewhere in our anatomies, like
<DIV></DIV>> > > veritable burrs in the saddle).
<DIV></DIV>> > > What does it mean to exist, anyway?
<DIV></DIV>> > > On the other hand, Billy Jim-Bob sends us a weird
<DIV></DIV>> > > web-page in Portuguese, a
<DIV></DIV>> > > language which makes no sense to me at all-- why
<DIV></DIV>> > > don't they just speak
<DIV></DIV>> > > Spanish? Actually, the page looked kind of
<DIV></DIV>> > > interesting, but translation,
<DIV></DIV>> > > please! And while you're at it, Billy Jim, I'm an
<DIV></DIV>> > > expert in Pataphysics, but
<DIV></DIV>> > > I'll wager many on the list are unfamiliar with it.
<DIV></DIV>> > > One leading
<DIV></DIV>> > > 'pataphysician, Boris Vian, was known to remark that
<DIV></DIV>> > > he felt all veterans
<DIV></DIV>> > > should be shot, because they return from the wars
<DIV></DIV>> > > and persist in talking
<DIV></DIV>> > > about the nobility of it all-- sentiments I hardily
<DIV></DIV>> > > snicker at, but dare
<DIV></DIV>> > > not agree with too openly, for there are too many
<DIV></DIV>> > > veterans on this list,
<DIV></DIV>> > > including the Arab-killer extraordinaire, der
<DIV></DIV>> > > Mike-meister!
<DIV></DIV>> > >
<DIV></DIV>> > > And let's hear more from Forrest Gunther, a true
<DIV></DIV>> > > Pataphysician if there ever
<DIV></DIV>> > > were one, even if he does not exist at all!
<DIV></DIV>> > >
<DIV></DIV>> > > Jon
<DIV></DIV>> > >
<DIV></DIV>> > >
<DIV></DIV>> > >
<DIV></DIV>> > > >From: "Wayne Johnson" <CADAOBH2@BRGNET.COM>
<DIV></DIV>> > > >To: "Jim Strong" <STRONGJIM@YAHOO.COM>, "Jon Ford"
<DIV></DIV>> > > ><JONMFORDSTER@HOTMAIL.COM>,
<DIV></DIV>> > > <AUSTIN-GHETTO-LIST@PAIRLIST.NET>
<DIV></DIV>> > > >Subject: RE: Manson-Osama connection?
<DIV></DIV>> > > >Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 18:10:11 -0500
<DIV></DIV>> > > >
<DIV></DIV>> > > >Bubba calls 'em as he understands 'em. In other
<DIV></DIV>> > > worlds they gotta have
<DIV></DIV>> > > >demonstrative and verifiable existences. In the
<DIV></DIV>> > > words of Waldenheim Wiest
<DIV></DIV>> > > >von Goethe, late of Taylor..."belief ain't the same
<DIV></DIV>> > > as knowledge."
<DIV></DIV>> > > >
<DIV></DIV>> > > >
<DIV></DIV>> > > >
<DIV></DIV>> > > >-----Original Message-----
<DIV></DIV>> > > >From: austin-ghetto-list-admin@pairlist.net
<DIV></DIV>> > > >[mailto:austin-ghetto-list-admin@pairlist.net]On
<DIV></DIV>> > > Behalf Of Jim Strong
<DIV></DIV>> > > >Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 5:42 PM
<DIV></DIV>> > > >To: Wayne Johnson; Jon Ford;
<DIV></DIV>> > > austin-ghetto-list@pairlist.net
<DIV></DIV>> > > >Subject: RE: Manson-Osama connection?
<DIV></DIV>> > > >
<DIV></DIV>> > > >Or, as the esteemed Pataphysician said,
<DIV></DIV>> > > >"Jean-Paul Poulhan ne existe pas"
<DIV></DIV>> > > >cf: http://www.artesonline.al.org.br/4/arte2.htm
<DIV></DIV>> > > >-------------------------------------------------
<DIV></DIV>> > > >vous êtes si cruel, Bubba. Non?
<DIV></DIV>> > > >--------------------------------
<DIV></DIV>> > > >Billy Jim
<DIV></DIV>> > > >----------
<DIV></DIV>> > > >
<DIV></DIV>> > > >
<DIV></DIV>> > > >
<DIV></DIV>> > > >--- Wayne Johnson <CADAOBH2@BRGNET.COM>wrote:
<DIV></DIV>> > > > > Well, considering that neither exits, it's
<DIV></DIV>> > > laughs
<DIV></DIV>> > > > > all around.
<DIV></DIV>> > > > >
<DIV></DIV>> > > > > B.
<DIV></DIV>> > > > >
<DIV></DIV>> > > > > -----Original Message-----
<DIV></DIV>> > > > > From: austin-ghetto-list-admin@pairlist.net
<DIV></DIV>> > > > > [mailto:austin-ghetto-list-admin@pairlist.net]On
<DIV></DIV>> > > > > Behalf Of Jon Ford
<DIV></DIV>> > > > > Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 2:38 PM
<DIV></DIV>> > > > > To: strongjim@yahoo.com;
<DIV></DIV>> > > > > austin-ghetto-list@pairlist.net
<DIV></DIV>> > > > > Subject: Manson-Osama connection?
<DIV></DIV>> > > > >
<DIV></DIV>> > > > > Billy Jim-- Tex Watson's account of his first
<DIV></DIV>> > > > > meeting with Manson was indeed
<DIV></DIV>> > > > > disturbing and fascinating. Apparently Bin Laden
<DIV></DIV>> > > has
<DIV></DIV>> > > > > the same kind of
<DIV></DIV>> > > > > hypnotic gaze and instant-conversion ability as
<DIV></DIV>> > > > > Manson did. They are both
<DIV></DIV>> > > > > nomadic media-manipulators and good at getting
<DIV></DIV>> > > > > others to do their killing
<DIV></DIV>> > > > > for them. Both have a lot of "wives." A big
<DIV></DIV>> > > > > difference is in their
<DIV></DIV>> > > > > relationship with Satan: whereas Manson was
<DIV></DIV>> > > willing
<DIV></DIV>> > > > > to wear the mantle of
<DIV></DIV>> > > > > the evil one, Osama considers himself on the
<DIV></DIV>> > > side of
<DIV></DIV>> > > > > Allah, and sees the USA
<DIV></DIV>> > > > > as the Great Satan, while George Bush views
<DIV></DIV>> > > Osama as
<DIV></DIV>> > > > > the evil one.
<DIV></DIV>> > > > >
<DIV></DIV>> > > > > Jon
<DIV></DIV>> > > > >
<DIV></DIV>> > > > >
<DIV></DIV>> > > > > >From: Jim Strong <STRONGJIM@YAHOO.COM>
<DIV></DIV>> > > > > >To: austin-ghetto-list@pairlist.net
<DIV></DIV>> > > > > >Subject: No Name Maddox (aka Charlie Manson)
<DIV></DIV>> > > > > >Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2002 07:20:37 -0800 (PST)
<DIV></DIV>> > > > > >
<DIV></DIV>> > > > > >For the "No Name Maddox" afficianados, I offer
<DIV></DIV>> > > -
<DIV></DIV>> > > > >
<DIV></DIV>> > > >------------------------------------------------
<DIV></DIV>> > > > > >The following Charlie Manson web sites are
<DIV></DIV>> > > online.
<DIV></DIV>> > > > > I
<DIV></DIV>> > > > > >especially recommend the Manson handwriting
<DIV></DIV>> > > > > exemplar
<DIV></DIV>> > > > > >and the Charles "Tex" Watson Abounding Love
<DIV></DIV>> > > > > ministries
<DIV></DIV>> > > > > >pages - where he describes how he first met
<DIV></DIV>> > > Charlie
<DIV></DIV>> > > > > at
<DIV></DIV>> > > > > >Brian Wilson's house, and how Charlie asked Tex
<DIV></DIV>> > > > > "Will
<DIV></DIV>> > > > > >you die for me?".
<DIV></DIV>> > > > >
<DIV></DIV>> > > >------------------------------------------------
<DIV></DIV>> > > > > >Charlie's Scrawl:
<DIV></DIV>> > > > >
<DIV></DIV>> > > >
<DIV></DIV>> > >
<DIV></DIV>> > >http://www.handwriting.org/images/samples/cmanson.htm
<DIV></DIV>> > > > >
<DIV></DIV>> > > >-------------------------------------------------
<DIV></DIV>> > > > > >Hitchinking Can Be Dangerous:
<DIV></DIV>> > > > > >http://www.aboundinglove.org/himm.htm
<DIV></DIV>> > > > >
<DIV></DIV>> > > >-------------------------------------------------
<DIV></DIV>> > > > > >Get the Point, Tex?:
<DIV></DIV>> > > > > >http://www.aboundinglove.org/wydfm1.htm
<DIV></DIV>> > > > >
<DIV></DIV>> > > >-------------------------------------------------
<DIV></DIV>> > > > > >Another Chance Encounter & Bikers:
<DIV></DIV>> > > > > >http://www.mfinley.com/articles/manson.htm
<DIV></DIV>> > > > >
<DIV></DIV>> > > >-------------------------------------------------
<DIV></DIV>> > > > > >The Charlie Fun Page:
<DIV></DIV>> > > > > >http://www.angelfire.com/ny/dementio/
<DIV></DIV>> > > > >
<DIV></DIV>> > > >-------------------------------------------------
<DIV></DIV>> > > > > >Sounds of Charlie [Da Master's Voice]:
<DIV></DIV>> > > > >
<DIV></DIV>> > > >http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Arena/5928/
<DIV></DIV>> > > > >
<DIV></DIV>> > > >-------------------------------------------------
<DIV></DIV>> > > > > >Charlie Don't Surf:
<DIV></DIV>> > > > > >http://www.revolting.com/1.2/charlie/
<DIV></DIV>> > > > >
<DIV></DIV>> > > >-------------------------------------------------
<DIV></DIV>> > > > > >A Doting Skinhead's Tribute:
<DIV></DIV>> > > > >
<DIV></DIV>> > > >
<DIV></DIV>> > >
<DIV></DIV>> > >http://www.fortunecity.com/rivendell/elfin/1025/charles.htm
<DIV></DIV>> > > > >
<DIV></DIV>> > > >--------------------------------------------------
<DIV></DIV>> > > > > >Charlie & Shiva:
<DIV></DIV>> > > > > >http://members.aol.com/KarolMay/manson.html
<DIV></DIV>> > > > >
<DIV></DIV>> > > >--------------------------------------------------
<DIV></DIV>> > > > > >Manson Quotes:
<DIV></DIV>> > > > >
<DIV></DIV>> > > >
<DIV></DIV>> > >
<DIV></DIV>> > >http://members.tripod.com/~Westbrook/SK/Charles_Manson.html
<DIV></DIV>> > > > >
<DIV></DIV>> > > >---------------------------------------------------
<DIV></DIV>> > > > > >The OTO Lodge Chips In:
<DIV></DIV>> > > > > >http://home.sunrise.ch/prkoenig/manson.htm
<DIV></DIV>> > > > >
<DIV></DIV>> > > >---------------------------------------------------
<DIV></DIV>> > > > > >An Early Mug Shot:
<DIV></DIV>> > > > >
<DIV></DIV>> > >
<DIV></DIV>> >=== message truncated ===
<DIV></DIV>> >
<DIV></DIV>> >
<DIV></DIV>> >=====
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