rejecting a diktat

globe@zipcon.com globe@zipcon.com
Sun, 24 Nov 2002 15:20:05 -0800 (PST)


Jon, Jon, Mike wasn't referring to you.  and I was just be playful but it is 
nice you picked up the catty reference I made becasue I thought Michael jealous 
that I mentioned the Serbians. Perhaps he wasn't, jealous,
 pardon,
  Carolyn


uoting Jon Ford <jonmfordster@hotmail.com>:

> Am I alone in finding the discussion of "diktat"  in the posts below 
> terribly inane and irrelevant to the situation in Iraq? If you look up 
> "diktat" in a dictionary you find it refers to any authoritarian decree;
> it 
> derives from the same root as  the English word "dictator." Now it might
> be 
> meaningful to speak of the Iraqui Parliament being brave in rejecting a
> 
> "diktat" from the UN or from Bush or whoever if in fact that parliament
> 
> existed in a framework in which their vote mattered a little. However,
> these 
> fellows serve only at the whim of a dictator, Saddam, and so I can't see
> any 
> "bravery" in their acts-- their every vote is an act of fear and
> acquiesence 
> to the all-powerful daily diktats of SAddam. And the "sacred motherland"
> of 
> the resistant Serbs isn't very relevant here as an analogy. The fact is
> that 
>   modern  Iraq, despite having archeological roots that go far back in 
> history to ancient Babylon,  is  today a patchwork country held together
> 
> mainly by the force of Saddam's soldiers, his weaponry, propaganda, and
> the 
> anger of many citizens about the "diktat" conditions imposed on Iraq
> after 
> the Persian Gulf War, conditions which have led to a weakened economy
> and 
> poor nutrition, etc. As for the comment of Eisenstadt that was deemed so
> 
> catty it made CArolyn cry "meow," I have no idea who "John" could refer
> to, 
> as this is not how I spell my name, nor does my father spell it that
> way, as 
> Mike well knows--- so they must be referring to some other individual.
> 
> Jon Ford
> 
> 
> 
> >From: globe@zipcon.net
> >To: Michael Eisenstadt <michaele@ando.pair.com>
> >CC: austin-ghetto-list@pairlist.net
> >Subject: Re: rejecting a diktat
> >Date: Sun, 24 Nov 2002 11:28:56 -0800 (PST)
> >
> >   Meow to your last question, Michael.
> >     Carolyn
> >Quoting Michael Eisenstadt <michaele@ando.pair.com>:
> >
> > > Carolyn Garner wrote:
> > >
> > > > ...No country would ever willing let foreign
> > > > troops on its soil.  The Serbs were given the
> > > > same deal right before W.W.I and they refused
> > > > knowing their refusal would lead to invasion
> > > > which it did.
> > >
> > > Yes, the Austro-Hungarian empire gave the Serbs
> > > an unacceptable diktat which the Serbs rejected
> > > causing WW I although i dont offhand remember
> > > the terms
> > >
> > > Carolyn, did John recall this from his 20th
> > > century world history reading?
> > >
> > > best
> > >
> > > Mike
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I hope the Iraqi Parl.'s vote will give some anxious moments to
> Bush
> > > and
> > > company
> > > about the Iraqi people supporting our invasion.  Bush, Cheney and
> > > Rumsfield are just a bunch of
> > > bullies wanting to beat up on someone they think they can win
> easily.
> > > They believe it will be
> > > easy pickens all that nice oil,  but I wonder how easy it will be
> to
> > > protect the oil fields
> > > from sabotage?
> > >  Anyway I hope Mike is right..manichean or no manicheans (i always
> > > thought they ran around in
> > > little feathers with claws on the end?)
> > >  am listening to Janos Starker's complete bach complete suites solo
> > > cello, recorded in the mid
> > > 60's
> > > carolyn
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >  Carolyn Siscoe
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