Reverse racism?
Wayne Johnson
austin-ghetto-list@pairlist.net
Mon Mar 29 08:10:09 2004
The Irish...Saved Civilization. I know this is true because there is a
(great) book about that very subject!
Erin Go Bra! :-)
wj
----- Original Message -----
From: "Pepi Plowman" <pepstoil@yahoo.com>
To: <austin-ghetto-list@pairlist.net>
Sent: Monday, March 29, 2004 12:58 AM
Subject: Re: Reverse racism?
> I beg your pardon, the Irish are Super Human, doncha
> know?!
> pep
> --- Wayne Johnson <cadaobh@shentel.net> wrote:
> > Well, everything is OK, except, of course, for the
> > Irish, who, as we all
> > know are sub-human!
> >
> > May the Liffy swallow your shoes!
> >
> > Paddy O'Bubba McGowen
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Jon Ford" <jonmfordster@hotmail.com>
> > To: <austin-ghetto-list@pairlist.net>
> > Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2004 3:00 PM
> > Subject: Reverse racism?
> >
> >
> > > Pepi-- Sorry I had a bit of trouble having a
> > "clear read" of your post.
> > > Maybe you lost credibility to me with the "past
> > lives" stuff. I totally
> > > believe that this is "mumbo jumbo"--the Buddhist
> > ideas on reincarnation
> > can
> > > work as a metaphor for enhancing one's Karma on
> > this earth to avoid coming
> > > back as a lower form of being in another frame of
> > being, but the literal
> > > reincarnation in the Bridey Murphy stuff is just
> > the mind working
> > overtime
> > > to create fictional personas. Better to go write a
> > novel, or a series of
> > > them! Thus I couldn't quite believe the other
> > strange aspects of your
> > > "family story." Well, it's an interesting bit of
> > autobiography, as is the
> > > part about being raped and then living with black
> > people in part out of
> > > "reverse racism." I can't really judge your
> > response to your rape-- sounds
> > > like you were trying to cope in your own way. I
> > hope it worked for you.
> > But
> > > did this "reverse racism" really wipe out your
> > anger (I assume you had
> > some
> > > negative responses to being raped-- this would
> > seem normal)? My point in
> > my
> > > post was that, as Michael E. suggests, a little
> > bit of unconscious
> > racism
> > > still hangs around, even if we consciously
> > understand other cultures and
> > > ethnic groups and even if we do extreme penance
> > to eradicate the feeling
> > of
> > > difference. Admitting and coping with such
> > feelings is better than
> > > repressing and denying them.
> > >
> > > Jon
> > >
> > >
> > > >From: Pepi Plowman <pepstoil@yahoo.com>
> > > >Reply-To: austin-ghetto-list@pairlist.net
> > > >To: austin-ghetto-list@pairlist.net
> > > >Subject: Re: let's try to do nuance
> > > >Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2004 11:28:50 -0800 (PST)
> > > >
> > > >Jon,
> > > >
> > > >Sorry my posts are ununderstandable to you--in
> > the
> > > >last one, the stories about being burned in
> > the ovens
> > > >and being a Buddhist monk are past
> > lifetimes--the part
> > > >about my sister and I being born in a prison
> > camp in
> > > >the Philippines and her living in Israel for
> > eight
> > > >years took place in this lifetime and is no
> > fantasy.
> > > >
> > > >Insofar as racism and ethnicism is
> > concerned--it's
> > > >true, it's available to all, especially if one
> > has no
> > > >experience of other cultures. I was raped
> > (and so was
> > > >my little sister, Gayle) by black men and I
> > made it a
> > > >goal to not become a racist because of it. If
> > > >anything as regards black people, I am a
> > reverse
> > > >racist, because I esteem so much about them.
> > I hung
> > > >out mostly with African Americans when I lived
> > in
> > > >Berkeley because I felt more comfortable with
> > them.
> > > >
> > > >pep
> > > >--- Jon Ford <jonmfordster@hotmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > > > Pepi-- I want you to know that I can
> > read pretty
> > > > > well and I tried hard to
> > > > > read your last post, but you are so
> > psychic you
> > > > > don't seem to know fantasy
> > > > > from reality. I can't tell which part of
> > your
> > > > > family's bio is
> > > > > reincarnation-tales, which is fantasy or
> > weird
> > > > > family stories somewhat
> > > > > varnished by time,
> > > > > which is just sheer crank-talk. But I do
> > know that I
> > > > > didn't intend to insult
> > > > > you or call you or your sister a racist
> > in my post
> > > > > to Mike E. I was talking
> > > > > in general of such bunk as
> > "Israelis are
> > > > > reincarnated
> > > > > Nazis" and where such thoughts
> > evolve from, how they
> > > > > are related to other
> > > > > thoughts such a false analogy as
> > "Zionism is
> > > > > Fascism". I wanted to open the
> > > > > discussion into a more general sense of
> > illogic and
> > > > > mental infection by
> > > > > slogans. On the other hand, the comments
> > Mike
> > > > > recently made about the
> > > > > difficulty of total acceptance of people
> > of other
> > > > > races/cultures rings true.
> > > > > There is always a trace of
> > "difference" in our
> > > > > dealings with people of other
> > > > > cultures and ethnicities; we can
> > suppress these
> > > > > feelings and try to be
> > > > > totally one with all the world, but in
> > the long run,
> > > > > it's better to
> > > > > acknowledge the little bit of
> > unconscious racism we
> > > > > all carry around in us.
> > > > > Acknowledging it won't make it go away,
> > but it may
> > > > > prevent it from biting us
> > > > > in the butt or coming back to us inr
> > dreams and
> > > > > bizarre fantasies about
> > > > > reincarnation.
> > > > >
> > > > > Jon
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > &gt;From: Pepi Plowman
> > &lt;pepstoil@yahoo.com&gt;
> > > > > &gt;Reply-To:
> > austin-ghetto-list@pairlist.net
> > > > > &gt;To:
> > austin-ghetto-list@pairlist.net
> > > > > &gt;Subject: Re: let's try to do
> > nuance
> > > > > &gt;Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2004 12:58:22
> > -0800 (PST)
> > > > > &gt;
> > > > > &gt;Mike, this is getting
> > ridiculous! I really
> > > > > can't
> > > > > &gt;answer questions that have no
> > basis in any
> > > > > knowledge
> > > > > &gt;other than a set-in-stone,
> > vituperative point of
> > > > > view.
> > > > > &gt; So rather than answer your
> > questions, I will
> > > > > tell you
> > > > > &gt;a little bit about myself and my
> > sisters.
> > > > > &gt;
> > > > > &gt;First of all, the Plowman girls
> > are all pretty
> > > > > &gt;consciously psychic. Which is
> > to say, we are
> > > > > privy to
> > > > > &gt;circumstances, feelings, vibes,
> > future events,
> > > > > AND
> > > > > &gt;past ones, by virtue of staying
> > in touch with
> > > > > that
> >
> === message truncated ===
>
>
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