why 4? Re: Response
Jim Baldauf
austin-ghetto-list@pairlist.net
Wed Sep 1 02:48:46 2004
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Yes, I received four copies too!
One was far too many.
jb
ps. Maybe Jim Strong is causing multiple copies to be sent.=20
Perhaps to make you look bad!
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Jon Ford=20
To: austin-ghetto-list@pairlist.net=20
Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2004 1:16 AM
Subject: RE: why 4? Re: Response
Sorry you received four-- i only sent one.=20
Jon
>From: Mary Ann Wilson <mbuttons@gate.net>=20
>Reply-To: austin-ghetto-list@pairlist.net=20
>To: <austin-ghetto-list@pairlist.net>=20
>Subject: why 4? Re: Response=20
>Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2004 21:03:08 -0500=20
>=20
>=20
>Jon,=20
>=20
>I received FOUR of these. One is more than enough. This stuff doesn't =
belong=20
>on list.=20
>=20
>m-a=20
>=20
>=20
>on 8-31-2004 3:13 PM, Jon Ford at jonmfordster@hotmail.com wrote:=20
>=20
>Mike-- I'm glad you sent out the email from Jim. Although I had =
previously=20
>received it from you,I tried to interpret it for the guetto2 folk =
without=20
>quoting directly from it, and was met with a hail of hostility; Jim =
totally=20
>denied sending it, suggesting indirectly that you had made it all up. =
I=20
>still maintain that you were dissed in this case by Wayne and Gerry, =
but=20
>Wayne is a big-hearted guy, who can get mad at someone and still be a =
friend=20
>(except in my case, in which he totally wiped my out of his email =
world=20
>because of a comment I once made about how white celtic skin is most=20
>beautiful of all, whereas I mantain that the "beauty" of skin color =
is a=20
>subjective cultural concept).=20
>=20
>Jon=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
> >From: "Michael Eisenstadt" <michaele@HotPOP.com>=20
> >Reply-To: austin-ghetto-list@pairlist.net=20
> >To: <austin-ghetto-list@pairlist.net>=20
> >Subject: Re: Response=20
> >Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2004 12:47:42 -0600=20
> >=20
> >From: "Pepi Plowman" <pepstoil@yahoo.com>=20
> >To: <austin-ghetto-list@pairlist.net>=20
> >Cc: "Ghetto 2" <GHETTO2@LISTSERV.WHATHELPS.COM>=20
> >Sent: Monday, August 30, 2004 9:28 PM=20
> >Subject: Re: Response=20
> >=20
> >=20
> > > Mike, you remind me of Don Quixote, fighting=20
> > > windmills! You want to pick a fight whether there's=20
> > > one there or not! Is this a late midlife crisis, or=20
> > > what? You send a blip out of the blue talking about=20
> > > how you were insulted by an e-mail sent by Jim Strong,=20
> > > but you don't forward the e-mail. There's no way to=20
> > > know what Jim meant without seeing it, albeit he=20
> > > rightly figured it was personal.=20
> >=20
> >It was personal but he posted it both to me and=20
> >to agl. I should have allowed it to go through but=20
> >it was so creepy I was ashamed to.=20
> >=20
> >That was a mistake it seems. Here's his email=20
> >in its entirety=20
> >=20
> >START HERE=20
> >=20
> >--- Michael Eisenstadt <michaele@HotPOP.com> wrote:=20
> >=20
> > > http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/469781.html=20
> > >=20
> > > very long interview with Theodorakis the great Greek=20
> > > composer by an Israeli journalist=20
> > >=20
> > > he is full of it just like Jim Strong and others but=20
> > > more nuanced.=20
> > >=20
> > > here's a snippet=20
> >=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=20
> > <reply>=20
> > what a pathetic, whiney little schnorra weasel you=20
> >are mikey ... i. e. Gai kakhen afenyam ....=20
> > or, in the laternative, go engage in your favorite=20
> >pasttime - anal (and/or) banal intercourse with your=20
> >significant other doppleganager ...=20
> > maybe you should try to get another waiter job -=20
> >and avoid being fired this time for being a flaming=20
> >asshole with the customers ...=20
> >=20
> >peace and have another xanax.=20
> >=20
> >STOP HERE=20
> >=20
> >I shouldnt have showed to Madelon as it upset her.=20
> >=20
> >What set him off I don't know. I said that Theodorakis=20
> >and Jim Strong and others are full of it. The expression=20
> >"full of it" seems so anodyne so what set him off?=20
> >=20
> >Pepi, I want you to know that I take pills for my male=20
> >menopause and the tests show that it is under control.=20
> >The figures are in range and that's science. Unlike=20
> >FHR (female hormone replacement) medication ours=20
> >is distilled from horny stallion pee.=20
> >=20
> >Pepi also said=20
> >=20
> > > You are developing paranoid conceptualizations,=20
> > > as ever, as you enumerate at length friends and=20
> > > acquaintances in consideration of their possible=20
> > > view of you.=20
> >=20
> >At length? This is so unfair. Jon Ford mistakenly=20
> >identified Wayne Johnson (40 year friendship)=20
> >and Gerry Storm as having dissed me on=20
> >JSDGMLG2.=20
> >=20
> >I wrote merely to disabuse him of an error. Jon=20
> >has never even MET Wayne. Gerry I know from=20
> >the Raw Deal. Jon Ford spoke ONLY of Wayne=20
> >and Gerry.=20
> >=20
> >I shoulda stopped there. But at the keyboard a=20
> >counterbalancing contrast seemed to be needed.=20
> >So I named JS, Simmons, Ted Samsel and=20
> >Fontaine also as folks who really REALLY dont like=20
> >me. Pepi, that aint paranoid conceptualizations,=20
> >that's simply the way it is. It's only 4 people, it's=20
> >not a big deal. Sorry it's such a problem for you.=20
> >=20
> >Afterwards Wayne confirmed my claim of friendship.=20
> >And Gerry publicly giggled at Wayne's revelation of the=20
> >LEGUME conspiracy against me.=20
> >=20
> >You're right about email being an imperfect medium.=20
> >I have always thought that the charm of OUR maillist=20
> >was that we knew each other in real life and saw=20
> >one another at parties. So when reading Karen or=20
> >Connie or other folks that we actually know in real life,=20
> >it always strikes me how lifelike their emails are,=20
> >you can almost hearing them speaking, it is SO them.=20
> >=20
> >As compared to folks one knows ONLY through=20
> >email.=20
> >=20
> >I think the problem with my letters is that the=20
> >charm of full self-expression is too tempting for=20
> >me. My self-expression IS different from the=20
> >usual Texan sensibility, I know that. But my view=20
> >is that if I find myself living among folks with a=20
> >more buttoned-up sensibility, the last thing I=20
> >would do in my whole life would be to adopt it.=20
> >Alas, this decision does not easily make me=20
> >friends nor do I have any ambition to run for=20
> >elected office.=20
> >=20
> >It's like Jack Nicholson at the end of the Sean=20
> >Penn directed movie The Pledge where=20
> >Nicholson is sitting on the porch of his lakeside=20
> >house drinking a beer and arguing with himself=20
> >with gestures. Or is it?=20
> >=20
> >Mike=20
> >=20
> >=20
> >=20
> >=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
>Check out Election 2004 for up-to-date election news, plus voter =
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>mbuttons@gate.net=20
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<DIV>Yes, I received four copies too!</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>One was far too many.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>jb</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>ps. Maybe Jim Strong is causing multiple copies to be sent. </DIV>
<DIV> Perhaps to make you look bad!</DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
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black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A title=3Djonmfordster@hotmail.com =
href=3D"mailto:jonmfordster@hotmail.com">Jon=20
Ford</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
title=3Daustin-ghetto-list@pairlist.net=20
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href=3D"mailto:austin-ghetto-list@pairlist.net">austin-ghetto-list@pairli=
st.net</A>=20
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, September 01, =
2004 1:16=20
AM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: why 4? Re: =
Response</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV class=3DRTE>
<P><BR><BR></P>Sorry you received four-- i only sent one. </DIV>
<DIV class=3DRTE> </DIV>
<DIV class=3DRTE>Jon</DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<P> </P>
<P>>From: Mary Ann Wilson <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:mbuttons@gate.net">mbuttons@gate.net</A>> </P>
<DIV></DIV>>Reply-To: <A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:austin-ghetto-list@pairlist.net">austin-ghetto-list@pairli=
st.net</A>=20
<DIV></DIV>>To: <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:austin-ghetto-list@pairlist.net">austin-ghetto-list@pairli=
st.net</A>>=20
<DIV></DIV>>Subject: why 4? Re: Response=20
<DIV></DIV>>Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2004 21:03:08 -0500=20
<DIV></DIV>>=20
<DIV></DIV>>=20
<DIV></DIV>>Jon,=20
<DIV></DIV>>=20
<DIV></DIV>>I received FOUR of these. One is more than enough. This =
stuff=20
doesn't belong=20
<DIV></DIV>>on list.=20
<DIV></DIV>>=20
<DIV></DIV>>m-a=20
<DIV></DIV>>=20
<DIV></DIV>>=20
<DIV></DIV>>on 8-31-2004 3:13 PM, Jon Ford at =
jonmfordster@hotmail.com=20
wrote:=20
<DIV></DIV>>=20
<DIV></DIV>>Mike-- I'm glad you sent out the email from Jim. =
Although I had=20
previously=20
<DIV></DIV>>received it from you,I tried to interpret it for the =
guetto2=20
folk without=20
<DIV></DIV>>quoting directly from it, and was met with a hail of =
hostility;=20
Jim totally=20
<DIV></DIV>>denied sending it, suggesting indirectly that you had =
made it=20
all up. I=20
<DIV></DIV>>still maintain that you were dissed in this =
case by=20
Wayne and Gerry, but=20
<DIV></DIV>>Wayne is a big-hearted guy, who can get mad at someone =
and=20
still be a friend=20
<DIV></DIV>>(except in my case, in which he totally wiped my out of =
his=20
email world=20
<DIV></DIV>>because of a comment I once made about how white celtic =
skin is=20
most=20
<DIV></DIV>>beautiful of all, whereas I mantain that the "beauty" =
of skin=20
color is a=20
<DIV></DIV>>subjective cultural concept).=20
<DIV></DIV>>=20
<DIV></DIV>>Jon=20
<DIV></DIV>>=20
<DIV></DIV>>=20
<DIV></DIV>>=20
<DIV></DIV>>=20
<DIV></DIV>> >From: "Michael Eisenstadt" =
<michaele@HotPOP.com>=20
<DIV></DIV>> >Reply-To: austin-ghetto-list@pairlist.net=20
<DIV></DIV>> >To: <austin-ghetto-list@pairlist.net>=20
<DIV></DIV>> >Subject: Re: Response=20
<DIV></DIV>> >Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2004 12:47:42 -0600=20
<DIV></DIV>> >=20
<DIV></DIV>> >From: "Pepi Plowman" <pepstoil@yahoo.com>=20
<DIV></DIV>> >To: <austin-ghetto-list@pairlist.net>=20
<DIV></DIV>> >Cc: "Ghetto 2" =
<GHETTO2@LISTSERV.WHATHELPS.COM>=20
<DIV></DIV>> >Sent: Monday, August 30, 2004 9:28 PM=20
<DIV></DIV>> >Subject: Re: Response=20
<DIV></DIV>> >=20
<DIV></DIV>> >=20
<DIV></DIV>> > > Mike, you remind me of Don Quixote, fighting =
<DIV></DIV>> > > windmills! You want to pick a fight whether =
there's=20
<DIV></DIV>> > > one there or not! Is this a late midlife =
crisis, or=20
<DIV></DIV>> > > what? You send a blip out of the =
blue=20
talking about=20
<DIV></DIV>> > > how you were insulted by an e-mail sent by =
Jim=20
Strong,=20
<DIV></DIV>> > > but you don't forward the =
e-mail. There's=20
no way to=20
<DIV></DIV>> > > know what Jim meant without seeing it, =
albeit he=20
<DIV></DIV>> > > rightly figured it was personal.=20
<DIV></DIV>> >=20
<DIV></DIV>> >It was personal but he posted it both to me and=20
<DIV></DIV>> >to agl. I should have allowed it to go through but =
<DIV></DIV>> >it was so creepy I was ashamed to.=20
<DIV></DIV>> >=20
<DIV></DIV>> >That was a mistake it seems. Here's his email=20
<DIV></DIV>> >in its entirety=20
<DIV></DIV>> >=20
<DIV></DIV>> >START HERE=20
<DIV></DIV>> >=20
<DIV></DIV>> >--- Michael Eisenstadt <michaele@HotPOP.com> =
wrote:=20
<DIV></DIV>> >=20
<DIV></DIV>> > > =
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/469781.html=20
<DIV></DIV>> > >=20
<DIV></DIV>> > > very long interview with Theodorakis the =
great Greek=20
<DIV></DIV>> > > composer by an Israeli journalist=20
<DIV></DIV>> > >=20
<DIV></DIV>> > > he is full of it just like Jim Strong and =
others but=20
<DIV></DIV>> > > more nuanced.=20
<DIV></DIV>> > >=20
<DIV></DIV>> > > here's a snippet=20
<DIV></DIV>> =
>=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=20
<DIV></DIV>> > <reply>=20
<DIV></DIV>> > what a pathetic, whiney =
little=20
schnorra weasel you=20
<DIV></DIV>> >are mikey ... i. e. Gai kakhen afenyam ....=20
<DIV></DIV>> > or, in the laternative, go =
engage=20
in your favorite=20
<DIV></DIV>> >pasttime - anal (and/or) banal intercourse with =
your=20
<DIV></DIV>> >significant other doppleganager ...=20
<DIV></DIV>> > maybe you should try to =
get=20
another waiter job -=20
<DIV></DIV>> >and avoid being fired this time for being a =
flaming=20
<DIV></DIV>> >asshole with the customers ...=20
<DIV></DIV>> >=20
<DIV></DIV>> >peace and have another xanax.=20
<DIV></DIV>> >=20
<DIV></DIV>> >STOP HERE=20
<DIV></DIV>> >=20
<DIV></DIV>> >I shouldnt have showed to Madelon as it upset her. =
<DIV></DIV>> >=20
<DIV></DIV>> >What set him off I don't know. I said that =
Theodorakis=20
<DIV></DIV>> >and Jim Strong and others are full of it. The =
expression=20
<DIV></DIV>> >"full of it" seems so anodyne so what set him off? =
<DIV></DIV>> >=20
<DIV></DIV>> >Pepi, I want you to know that I take pills for my =
male=20
<DIV></DIV>> >menopause and the tests show that it is under =
control.=20
<DIV></DIV>> >The figures are in range and that's science. =
Unlike=20
<DIV></DIV>> >FHR (female hormone replacement) medication ours=20
<DIV></DIV>> >is distilled from horny stallion pee.=20
<DIV></DIV>> >=20
<DIV></DIV>> >Pepi also said=20
<DIV></DIV>> >=20
<DIV></DIV>> > > You are developing paranoid =
conceptualizations,=20
<DIV></DIV>> > > as ever, as you enumerate at length friends =
and=20
<DIV></DIV>> > > acquaintances in consideration of their =
possible=20
<DIV></DIV>> > > view of you.=20
<DIV></DIV>> >=20
<DIV></DIV>> >At length? This is so unfair. Jon Ford mistakenly=20
<DIV></DIV>> >identified Wayne Johnson (40 year friendship)=20
<DIV></DIV>> >and Gerry Storm as having dissed me on=20
<DIV></DIV>> >JSDGMLG2.=20
<DIV></DIV>> >=20
<DIV></DIV>> >I wrote merely to disabuse him of an error. Jon=20
<DIV></DIV>> >has never even MET Wayne. Gerry I know from=20
<DIV></DIV>> >the Raw Deal. Jon Ford spoke ONLY of Wayne=20
<DIV></DIV>> >and Gerry.=20
<DIV></DIV>> >=20
<DIV></DIV>> >I shoulda stopped there. But at the keyboard a=20
<DIV></DIV>> >counterbalancing contrast seemed to be needed.=20
<DIV></DIV>> >So I named JS, Simmons, Ted Samsel and=20
<DIV></DIV>> >Fontaine also as folks who really REALLY dont like =
<DIV></DIV>> >me. Pepi, that aint paranoid conceptualizations,=20
<DIV></DIV>> >that's simply the way it is. It's only 4 people, =
it's=20
<DIV></DIV>> >not a big deal. Sorry it's such a problem for you. =
<DIV></DIV>> >=20
<DIV></DIV>> >Afterwards Wayne confirmed my claim of friendship. =
<DIV></DIV>> >And Gerry publicly giggled at Wayne's revelation =
of the=20
<DIV></DIV>> >LEGUME conspiracy against me.=20
<DIV></DIV>> >=20
<DIV></DIV>> >You're right about email being an imperfect =
medium.=20
<DIV></DIV>> >I have always thought that the charm of OUR =
maillist=20
<DIV></DIV>> >was that we knew each other in real life and saw=20
<DIV></DIV>> >one another at parties. So when reading Karen or=20
<DIV></DIV>> >Connie or other folks that we actually know in =
real life,=20
<DIV></DIV>> >it always strikes me how lifelike their emails =
are,=20
<DIV></DIV>> >you can almost hearing them speaking, it is SO =
them.=20
<DIV></DIV>> >=20
<DIV></DIV>> >As compared to folks one knows ONLY through=20
<DIV></DIV>> >email.=20
<DIV></DIV>> >=20
<DIV></DIV>> >I think the problem with my letters is that the=20
<DIV></DIV>> >charm of full self-expression is too tempting for=20
<DIV></DIV>> >me. My self-expression IS different from the=20
<DIV></DIV>> >usual Texan sensibility, I know that. But my view=20
<DIV></DIV>> >is that if I find myself living among folks with a =
<DIV></DIV>> >more buttoned-up sensibility, the last thing I=20
<DIV></DIV>> >would do in my whole life would be to adopt it.=20
<DIV></DIV>> >Alas, this decision does not easily make me=20
<DIV></DIV>> >friends nor do I have any ambition to run for=20
<DIV></DIV>> >elected office.=20
<DIV></DIV>> >=20
<DIV></DIV>> >It's like Jack Nicholson at the end of the Sean=20
<DIV></DIV>> >Penn directed movie The Pledge where=20
<DIV></DIV>> >Nicholson is sitting on the porch of his lakeside=20
<DIV></DIV>> >house drinking a beer and arguing with himself=20
<DIV></DIV>> >with gestures. Or is it?=20
<DIV></DIV>> >=20
<DIV></DIV>> >Mike=20
<DIV></DIV>> >=20
<DIV></DIV>> >=20
<DIV></DIV>> >=20
<DIV></DIV>> >=20
<DIV></DIV>>=20
<DIV></DIV>>=20
<DIV></DIV>>=20
<DIV></DIV>>=20
<DIV></DIV>>Check out Election 2004 for up-to-date election news, =
plus=20
voter tools and=20
<DIV></DIV>>more! =
<http://g.msn.com/8HMAENUS/2746??PS=3D47575>=20
<DIV></DIV>>=20
<DIV></DIV>>=20
<DIV></DIV>>-- Mary Ann Wilson=20
<DIV></DIV>>mbuttons@gate.net=20
<DIV></DIV>>=20
<DIV></DIV>>=20
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