Carolyn, please name the Israeli policies towards the Arab world you object to
Wayne Johnson
austin-ghetto-list@pairlist.net
Sat Sep 4 23:19:49 2004
I am sur we wuz goin' to put some of thet monies into Eyerak, but Houston
jus needed it more.
Rev. B.
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To: "Michael Eisenstadt" <michaele@HotPOP.com>
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Sent: Saturday, September 04, 2004 6:37 PM
Subject: Re: Carolyn, please name the Israeli policies towards the Arab
world you object to
> Feith works under Wolfowitz, there is a chain. Israel would gain a lot
if it
> would treat the palestinans ad humans and give them something to loose
instead
> of treating like animals. I was shocked to read that for years Israel
gave
> lots of money to that old founder of Hamas. Why? Because they wanted to
keep
> things unsettled so Arafrat would never have the upper hand and could
> neogiate. So they indirectly encouraged suide bombers by supporting
Hamas.
> On a different note, an article by Noami Klein in the current Harper's is
> cracker jack, it is about the reconstruction or lack of -of Iraq.
> nothing personal about my feelings towards Israel.
> Carolyn ( I am afraid Kerry is going to lose)
>
>
> Quoting Michael Eisenstadt <michaele@HotPOP.com>:
>
> > From: <globe@zipcon.net>
> > To: "Michael Eisenstadt" <michaele@HotPOP.com>
> > Cc: <globe@zipcon.net>
> > Sent: Saturday, September 04, 2004 2:33 PM
> > Subject: Re: Carolyn, please name the Israeli policies towards the Arab
> > world you object to
> >
> >
> > > The new settlements and the building of the Wall. they are not doing
> > anything
> > > to ease tensions.
> >
> > Carolyn,
> >
> > There are NO new settlements. Sharon did authorize the building of
> > 1000 new houses in existing settlements. Maybe not a great idea but
> > there are NO new settlements.
> >
> > As for the building of the Wall, where this has been done, in the north
> > of the country, it has stopped terrorist incursions completely. There
> > have
> > been NO incursions where the wall is in place. In the lastest outrage,
> > in
> > Beersheba in the Negev in the south, where 2 suicide bombers blew
> > themselves up in 2 buses killing 16 innocent people killed and wounding
> > 90, there is NO wall yet built. The mayor of Beersheba and others,
> > subsequent to the bombing and even before, have been demanding that
> > the erection of the wall be speeded up and implemented in the south.
> >
> > You are AGAINST this? It stops terrorist incursions. This has been
> > proved where the wall is in place. How can you not be in favor of
> > finishing the wall?
> >
> > You speak of these Israeli actions (building houses and raising a wall)
> > as not "easing tensions." Hamas and Islamic Jihad are bent on the
> > total destruction of the Israeli state and they make no bones of
> > stating
> > this frequently. According to the standard interpretations of the
> > Koran,
> > no territory ever ruled by an Islamic government may lawfully be ruled
> > by a non-Islamic government. Much less by jews. So in theory the
> > Iberian peninsula, southern France, Italy as far north as Naples, and
> > the predominantly Christian Balkan countries must be returned to
> > Islam. In fact, according to the Spanish police, that was the stated
> > motive of the gentlement who blew up the 4 trains in Spain, an action
> > that was 5 years in the planning, long before the conservative
> > government of Spain sent troups to Iraq in support of Bush.
> >
> > You also wrote:
> >
> > > This betraying of secrets affair the FBI is investigating is
> > serious
> > because
> > > it would mean that Israel gets a peek and can influence our policy
> > twards
> > > Iran. I am sure you don't think it is a good idea if we invade Iran
> > with
> > the
> > > Israelis.
> >
> > No of course not. However if the Iranians provide themselves with
> > nuclear armed rockets, I rather imagine Israel will take steps. Ya
> > know,
> > the Iranians are mightily opposed to the existence of Israel probably
> > for the religious reasons outlined above.
> >
> > First let me point out that Wolfowitz does not make policy in the Bush
> > White House. At least that is what Jim Mann, the author of The Rise
> > of the Vulcans says (a very interesting book if you want to know ALL
> > about Rumsfeld, Chaney, Powell, Wolfowitz and Armitage.
> >
> > The gentleman being questioned by the FBI in connection with what
> > AIPAC did or did not tell the Israeli embassy (American Israeli
> > Political Action Committee) does NOT work for Wolfowitz. He works
> > for someone named Feith. He has NOT been charged with anything
> > (yet). Neither has anyone from AIPAC. So why do you assume that
> > Israel is guilty of something?
> >
> > It's like you are expressing a mood, a feeling, some kind of aversion
> > to Israel. What is husband John's opinion on these matters?
> >
> > Excuse the long rant.
> >
> > Michael
> >
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