SUPPORTING CINDY SHEEHAN but not Kinky

[thorne dreyer]

Certainly not.  Damn commie.  We could use him: somebody needs to throw those moneychangers out on their heads....

Igor Loving <lovingigor at hotmail.com> wrote: The religious right couln't support Jesus if he showed up. God Noes.



Charlie Loving




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>Chill. 
I agree with you. We need to mobilize behind viable Democratic candidates 
wherever we can (as long as they're not gutless posturing Republicans Lite). 
We must do it for survival, and fast, before they totally consolidate 
power, gerrymander and legislate and intimidate themselves into a virtually 
impenetrable position, consummating whatever unholy and unthinkable 
bargains they make with the filthy rich, and establish a virtual religious 
state, before "dissent" and "treason" are made synonyms 
under the law and before simply shaking down the poor lacks sufficient kick 
and poverty becomes grounds for indefinite detention. (Whew! I need a nap.) 
But I guess I don't figure Kinky to be a threat to a serious Democratic 
candidate. I guess I just don't see him as an Ahnald (even if he may be 
starting to think of himself that way). I think he'll just energize things 
and draw more attention to the race. I personally think that people are so 
alarmed by the state of things th
> at they
> would flock to a 
viable Democrat and wouldn't seriously consider throwing their votes away. 
Kinky might draw
>in first-time voters and some washed up cynics and 
country fried intellectuals -- but my guess is that a substantial number of 
such Kinkster groupies would, push come to shove, actually VOTE for a 
Democrat if such a Democrat is truly making a race of it. And I guess 
bottom line I believe that humor and fun make Republicans -- especially the 
pursed lip self-righteous ones -- seriously ill at ease. Out of their 
element. Could be totally out to lunch with this one, but that's my top of 
the head read. Speaking of lunch.....
>
>Frances Morey 
<frances_morey at yahoo.com> wrote:
>The religious right is tight 
with the entrenched status quo. A Democratic victory would devastate the 
religious right AND the Republicaners. A "protest" vote for Kinky, 
whose idea of protest is to not vote at all, is an equally empty gesture. If 
you want entertainment buy a ticket and attend a performance. The Kinkster 
hasn't a snowballs chance in hell and would be even less effective as 
governor than Ahnold or Jesse, neither of whom proved to be exceptional 
leaders. Comedy and music run on nuance, which is not terribly effective 
against the likes of DeLay and Rove. Politics is hard 
ball.
>FM
>
>thorne dreyer <thornedreyer at yahoo.com> 
wrote:
>Of course what you say about Kinky is valid, but man would it 
freak out the religious right!
>
>Jon Ford 
<jonmfordster at hotmail.com> wrote: The Kinkster business is typical if 
what goes on in politics today-- embrace
>of "fake" 
candidates who are really just celebrities with no real experience
>or 
desire to run a state or work with legislators. The list of guys 
like
>this who have won on name and failed once they got to the big 
house is
>getting longer all the time-- Jesse Ventura and Arnold to 
name just two
>(well, you can add George W. Bush for that matter). 
Kinky is funny and
>creative, but if he wins it won't be a big step 
forward for Texas.
>
>Jon
>
>
><;In other 
political scuttlebutt I also plan to support Chris Bell for 
the
>Democratic candidacy taking on Gov. Goodhair this fall. His 
formal
>announcement and campaign kick off rally is on Sunday, Aug. 
14, at 2:00 pm
>on UT campus at the foot of the MKL statue near 23rd 
and San Jacinto. He's a
>proud alum.
> >Whe n Chris Bell 
spoke as a virtual unknown to some 200
>Deaniac-style Democrats in 
Meetup at Scholz Garten in the Spring he got a
>standing ovation from 
the entire room. He is smart and focused and respects
>the electorate 
enough to tell the truth. That's a new political gambit for
>sure in 
these times. Unlike the Kinkster, I feel sure he voted many times 
in
>the last ten years, even in the US House of Representatives where 
he
>represented Harris County. His district was carved up by the 
Deadly Delay
>Political SWAT team with the Redistricting juggernaut we 
witnessed in the
>Texas Legislature. It's get 
even
>
>
>
>





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