[AGL] Clark's pointed to this:

Wayne Johnson cadaobh at shentel.net
Wed Sep 14 09:34:28 EDT 2005


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> From:  <i>&quot;Gerry&quot; &lt;mesmo at gilanet.com&gt;</i><br>Reply-To:
> <i>survivors' reminiscences about Austin Ghetto Daze in the 60s
> &lt;austin-ghetto-list at pairlist.net&gt;</i><br>To:  <i>&quot;survivors'
> reminiscences about Austin Ghetto Daze in the 60s&quot;
> &lt;austin-ghetto-list at pairlist.net&gt;</i><br>Subject:  <i>Re: Re: [AGL]
> Clark's pointed to this:</i><br>Date:  <i>Tue, 13 Sep 2005 13:15:52
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> <div><font face=Arial>My longtime/sometime girlfriend, Hope, has moved to
> Lubbock to pursue her PHD, abandoning the wilderness. I am running for a
> spot on
> the board of directors of our food coop in Silver City and enjoying the
> social
> activities which surround this institution, including (yes) some women I 
> had
> not
> met before, all quite young (30's and 40's) and interesting from a
> distance.</font></div>
> <div><font face=Arial></font> </div>
> <div><font face=Arial>Also bemoaning New Orleans, a city I once visited
> twice
> monthly for 5 years and grew to admire. I recently redid the words to
> &quot;Goin' to
> New Orleans&quot; by Prof Longhair into a lament for the lost culture of
> that special
> musical place (for an appearance at our annual cabaret night. &quot;If you
> see the
> Zulu Queen, tell her I have a place for her to stay...&quot;</font></div>
> <div><font face=Arial></font> </div>
> <div><font face=Arial>When Gore is hot he is not all that hot and when 
> he's
> not
> he's really not (hot). But he can deliver a good speech once in awhile. I
> hope
> we have some better choice than he or HC, establishment squares of the
> highest
> order who will not support anything the resembles genuine change and who
> refuse
> to oppose the war. Who knows what all will transpire between now and 
> 2008???
> More natural disasters??? Implosion of the economy??? Rabid inflation??? A
> total
> collapse of the Bush regime??? Class awareness leading to social
> rebellion??? It would appear that any or all of the above is/are
> possible/inevitable. </font></div>
> <div><font face=Arial></font> </div>
> <div><font face=Arial>How many days did you spend with Cindy this
> summer?</font></div>
> <div><font face=Arial>G</font></div>
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>  <div style="font:10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </div>
>  <div style="background:#e4e4e4;font:10pt
> arial;font-color:black"><b>From:</b>
>  <a title="frances_morey at yahoo.com"
> href="mailto:frances_morey at yahoo.com">Frances
>  Morey</a> </div>
>  <div style="font:10pt arial"><b>To:</b> <a title="mesmo at gilanet.com"
> href="mailto:mesmo at gilanet.com">mesmo at gilanet.com</a> </div>
>  <div style="font:10pt arial"><b>Cc:</b> <a title="francescam at hotpop.com"
> href="mailto:francescam at hotpop.com">Frances Morey</a> ; <a
> title="austin-ghetto-list at pairlist.net"
> href="mailto:austin-ghetto-list at pairlist.net">Austin List</a> </div>
>  <div style="font:10pt arial"><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, September 13, 2005
> 12:51
>  PM</div>
>  <div style="font:10pt arial"><b>Subject:</b> Fwd: Re: [AGL] Clark's
> pointed
>  to this:</div>
>  <div><br></div>
>  <div>Are you not tellin' if there's some new woman interest that's
>  got you by the attention?</div>
>  <div>It's good to hear that things in NM are sympatico.</div>
>  <div>I say watch out Hillary, here comes Gore...</div>
>  <div>Frances<br><br><b><i>Gerry &lt;&gt;</i></b> wrote:</div>
>  <blockquote class=replbq
> style="padding-left:5px;margin-left:5px;border-left:#1010ff 2px 
> solid">From:
>    &quot;Gerry&quot; &lt;<a
> href="mailto:mesmo at gilanet.com">mesmo at gilanet.com</a>&gt;<br>To:
> &quot;survivors'
>    reminiscences about Austin Ghetto Daze in the 60s&quot; &lt;<a
> href="mailto:austin-ghetto-list at pairlist.net">austin-ghetto-list at pairlist.net</a>&gt;<br>Subject:
>    Re: [AGL] Clark's pointed to this:<br>Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 12:43:04
>    -0600<br><br>
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>    <div><font face=Arial>Frances,</font></div>
>    <div><font face=Arial>I am alive and well and enjoying the incredible
> beauty
>    of early autumn in the valley of the Gila where the long-legged water
> birds
>    gather and the deer are fat from the marvelous growth of all green
>    things, spurred by the floods of February.</font></div>
>    <div><font face=Arial></font> </div>
>    <div><font face=Arial>Perhaps even more provocative than Al
>    Gore.</font></div>
>    <div> </div>
>    <div><font face=Arial><a
> href="http://www.truthout.org/docs_2005/091205D.shtml">http://www.truthout.org/docs_2005/091205D.shtml</a></font></div>
>    <div><font face=Arial>G</font></div>
>    <div><font face=Arial></font> </div>
>    <blockquote dir=ltr
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>      <div style="font:10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </div>
>      <div style="background:#e4e4e4;font:10pt
> arial;font-color:black"><b>From:</b>
>      <a title="frances_morey at yahoo.com"
> href="mailto:frances_morey at yahoo.com">Frances Morey</a> </div>
>      <div style="font:10pt arial"><b>To:</b> <a
> title="austin-ghetto-list at pairlist.net"
> href="mailto:austin-ghetto-list at pairlist.net">survivors' reminiscences
>      about Austin Ghetto Daze in the 60s</a> </div>
>      <div style="font:10pt arial"><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, September 13, 2005
>      11:51 AM</div>
>      <div style="font:10pt arial"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [AGL] Clark's 
> pointed
> to
>      this:</div>
>      <div><br></div>
>      <div>EBR (everybody but Roger) For him it's ABD&amp;Rs</div>
>      <div> </div>
>      <div>Have any news from Gerry Storm?</div>
>      <div> </div>
>      <div>Frances<br><br><b><i>Michael Eisenstadt &lt;<a
> href="mailto:michaele at hotpop.com">michaele at hotpop.com</a>&gt;</i></b>
>      wrote:</div>
>      <blockquote class=replbq
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> solid">Clark,<br><br>Very
>        provocative. Makes one think that Americans<br>might wake up some
> time
>        soon and vote
>
> Democrat<br>again.<br><br>Mike<br><br>----------------------------------------------<br><br>Al
>        Gore: When there is No Vision, the People Perish<br>by Bob
>        Burnett<br>CommonDreams.org<br>Sunday, September 11,
> 2005<br><br>Friday
>        morning, when they arrived at the opening plenary session of the
>        <br>first-ever Sierra Club convention held at San Francisco's
> Moscone
>        Center, <br>several thousand activists got a surprise. Instead of 
> an
>        address by <br>Executive Director, Carl Pope, they heard a rousing
>        speech from former Vice <br>President, Al Gore<br><br>Gore's theme
> was
>        based upon the quote from Proverbs, &quot;When there is no
> <br>vision, the
>        people perish.&quot; He dwelt at length on the catastrophe of
> <br>Hurricane
>        Katrina observing, &quot;It is important that we learn the right
> <br>lessons
>        from what happened, or else we will repeat the mistakes that were
>        <br>made.&quot;<br><br>Gore identified three basic lessons that the
> American
>        people must grasp: the <br>first is deceptively simple - Presidents
>        should be expected to pay <br>attention. The former Vice President
>        recalled that on August 6, 2001, <br>President Bush received an
>        intelligence briefing, &quot;Bin Laden determined to <br>strike in
> U.S.,&quot; but
>        took no action as, &quot;it was vacation time.&quot;<br><br>Four
> years later, the
>        Bush Administration received dire warnings of the <br>damage that
> would
>        be done to New Orleans, and the Gulf Coast, if Hurricane 
> <br>Katrina
>        kept to its projected course; nothing was done, &quot;It was, once
> again,
>        <br>vacation time.&quot;<br><br>The second lesson, according to
> Gore,
>        involves presidential accountability. <br>&quot;There has been no
>        accountability for horrible misjudgment and outright 
> <br>falsehood -
>        leading to the tragedy of Iraq.&quot; The former VP argued that 
> this
> <br>has
>        produced an atmosphere, in the White Hou se, where &quot;there is 
> no
> fear of
>        <br>accountability&quot; for the Federal missteps surrounding
> Hurricane
>        Katrina.<br><br>Gore opined that the management philosophy of the
> Bush
>        Administration has <br>been dictated by conservative lobbyist,
> Grover
>        Nordquist, who famously <br>boasted, &quot;my goal is to get
> government down
>        to the size where we can drown <br>it in a bathtub.&quot; Gore
> indicated
>        that, as a result, the President <br>deliberately shrunk the size 
> of
>        FEMA, rendering it &quot;weak and helpless.&quot;<br><br>The former
> Vice
>        President's third lesson is that Presidents ought to heed
> <br>warnings.
>        The Bush Administration ignored distress signals about Al Qaeda
> <br>and
>        the frailty of the New Orleans' levees, and continues to disregard
>        <br>warnings about global warming.<br><br>&quot;The average
> hurricane will
>        get stronger because of global warming, he said, <br>noting a
> scientific
>        study, recently reported in &quot;Nature&quot; magazine, that
> <br>concluded,
>        &quot;Since 1970, the average hurricane has been 50 percent strong
> er,&quot;
>        <br>specifically because the oceans have grown warmer.<br><br>Gore
>        passionately compared present-day America to Great Britain on the
> eve
>        <br>of World War II. He recalled the words that Winston Churchill
> spoke
>        after <br>Prime Minister Neville Chamberlain's infamous 1938
> appeasement
>        of Hitler,<br><br>&quot;They are decided to be undecided, resolved
> to be
>        irresolute, adamant for <br>drift, solid for fluidity, all powerful
> to
>        be impotent -<br><br>This is only the beginning of the reckoning.
> This
>        is only the first sip, the <br>first foretaste of a bitter cup 
> which
>        will be proffered to us year by year <br>unless by a supreme
> recovery of
>        moral health and martial vigour, we arise <br>again and take our
> stand
>        for freedom as in the olden time.&quot;<br><br>Noting the chilling
>        similarities between the crisis-management style of Bush <br>and
>        Chamberlain, the former VP declared that it is time that Americans,
>        <br>&quot;recover our moral health and demand
> accountability.&quot;<br><br>Gore
>        concluded his speec h by observing that the US is at &quot;a moral
> moment -
>        <br>This is not about scientific debate or political dialogue, but
> about
>        who we <br>are.<br><br>The former Vice President remembered that,
> after
>        the end of the civil war, <br>Abraham Lincoln remarked, &quot;As 
> the
> problems
>        are new, we must disenthrall <br>ourselves from the
> past.&quot;<br><br>Gore
>        implored his audience to help America be similarly disenthralled,
> &quot;to
>        <br>shed our illusions that have led us to ignore the consequences
> of
>        the global <br>warming that has already begun.&quot;<br><br>And the
> crowd
>        went wild.<br><br>I don't know why the geographic state of the
> United
>        States<br><br>was mysteriously steered away from its lawfully
> elected
>        leader.<br><br>If there is purpose here,<br><br>It is a mysterious
>        purpose indeed.<br><br>Perhaps that purpose is beginning to reveal
>        itself.
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