[AGL] there's a real world out there with independentactorsbenton mischief

[michelemason]

Well, tell me whar thu Hayul you are. You never know when I'll get the 
idea to visit.  mm

On Sep 26, 2006, at 4:58 PM, Igor Loving wrote:

> Deer Corn is the answer. Just hide and wait to see who comes to visit.
> No tv, no radio, just the Deer
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> Charlie Loving
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>> From: "Jon Ford" <jonmfordster at hotmail.com>
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>> Gerry-- I saw the film you are talking about and I agree it was 
>> great. It was strongly pro-Palestinian people and showed the brutal 
>> tactics of  the Israeli army, yet it also seemed to critique the ways 
>> terrorist groups manipulate vulnerable angry young men to blow 
>> themselves up. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think this film was 
>> made in Israel, a product of Israeli peace-movement directors.
>>
>> Jon
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>> From: "Gerry" <mesmo at gilanet.com>
>> Reply-To: survivors' reminiscences about Austin Ghetto Daze in the 
>> 60s<austin-ghetto-list at pairlist.net>
>> To: "survivors' reminiscences about Austin Ghetto Daze in the 
>> 60s"<austin-ghetto-list at pairlist.net>
>> Subject: Re: [AGL] there's a real world out there with independent 
>> actorsbenton mischief
>> Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 07:36:19 -0600
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>> Did any of you see the movie (wish I could remember the name...) 
>> about the two young Palestinians (early 20's) who decide to become 
>> martyrs? It was sympathetic to the Palestinian cause, began with a 
>> bio of each of them, followed with each of them having his death 
>> video, then after they are loaded and wired the mission has to be 
>> aborted when they are discovered and they are running from the 
>> authorities while carrying their deadly load, one of them has to 
>> sleep in the wilderness while still wired and loaded. In the end one 
>> of them decides not to go. The other makes it into Tel Aviv and gets 
>> on a bus filled with Israeli soldiers. The final shot is a hot white 
>> screen and silence.
>>  
>> It was one of the flicks shown by the local film society. I doubt it 
>> was distributed very widely.
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>> Anyhow, it moved me. The portrayal of life in Palestine for a young 
>> man (or woman) was especially sad. Probably no sadder than the many 
>> scenes from the recent bombing of Lebanon. Remember that? No longer 
>> in the news, wonder what's happening there now? Remember Gaza? We are 
>> talking DESPERATION here. Oh yeah, remember when the Israeli army was 
>> always a leadpipe cinch to dominate against any Arab force it chose 
>> to encounter? Since the little skirmish with Hezbollah this is no 
>> longer the case.  I hate to say it but the Israeli Army looked like 
>> the US Army out there, fumbling, bungling, and not knowing exactly 
>> what it was they were supposed to be doing, tanks against guerilla 
>> fighters armed with anti-tank missiles, a bad way to go. The mystique 
>> is gone now. In Gaza they are building very crude rockets by hand and 
>> sending them toward Israel. Most of them don't
>> make it that far, hell on the local cows and crops.They can destroy a 
>> country but not win a war. Lots of new recruits for Hamas and 
>> Hezbollah. (The US Army should be so lucky, now sending guys to Iraq 
>> for their 4th and 5th missions. Madness, next they will be clearing 
>> the jails to find able bodied fighting men...while the college boys 
>> party and paint themselves up in the school colors for 
>> football games.)  Long dialogues in the New Yorker with various 
>> components of the current players in the Middle East drama. They come 
>> and go but since the Barak/Arafat drama there has been no progress 
>> toward any kind of real settlement...let;let's face it, not in our 
>> lifetimes.
>>  
>> I'm so sick of Morning Edition on NPR, trying to be cute and trendy 
>> yuppies at least half the time while the world goes up in smoke. Who 
>> is in charge of that crap? Don't they get it? The latest actual count 
>> is over 68,000 American troupes either killed of wounded or crazy in 
>> the war. No end in sight. Meanwhile public radio is fawning over 
>> rockabilly heroes of the '50's. I am now only listening at the top of 
>> the hour when they give their version of the hard news. Oh yeah, I 
>> like to hear Nina Totenburg's legal reports, simply the best in that 
>> arena. Rene Montagne? Steve Inskeep? Huh? The only word that fits is 
>> "compromised".
>>  
>> Meanwhile, on the ground, I am having a fine harvest. 15" of rain 
>> between July and early September does wonders for the plants that 
>> don't wash away, BIG sweet peppers and eggplant and tomatoes, etc. 
>> Running the dehydrator most of the day to create winter stash. It's 
>> funny, once I step outside the house and into the garden all that 
>> crap on the radio fades away and I am in the other world, nature. 
>> Now, if the county would only send the road grader to fix my badly 
>> washed and only temporarily fixed (by my hand) road, I would be in 
>> fine shape for winter. The word is that this will be another El Nino 
>> winter. Cutting lots of wood...Love it!
>>  
>> Hope you all have a refuge from the news. I recommend gardening or at 
>> least hiking away from the city. Get outside let the crap pass you by 
>> for awhile...real time.
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>> G
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>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: michelemason
>> To: survivors' reminiscences about Austin Ghetto Daze in the 60s
>> Cc: michelemason
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2006 6:16 AM
>> Subject: Re: [AGL] there's a real world out there with independent 
>> actors benton mischief
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>> "nonsensical evil" —I like that Frances. mm
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>> On Sep 25, 2006, at 4:31 PM, Frances Morey wrote:
>>
>>
>> I'm sick of the new boogy men having labels that describe borderless 
>> and geographically mysterious suicidal ideologues who become human 
>> bomb delivery boys, (occasionally girls). They are sensless 
>> slayers whose most poisonous effect is to provide fodder for the 
>> media maw that keeps us fearfully enthralled and engaged 
>> in war. Mischief is too small a word for this kind of nonsensical 
>> evil.
>> Frances
>>
>> Michael Eisenstadt <michaele at ando.pair.com> wrote:
>>
>> Al-Qaida could use non-Arabs to attack Israel By Ze-ev Schiff, Haaretz
>> Correspondent
>> Shin Bet and other intelligence units have been put on special alert 
>> after
>> Ayman Al-Zawahiri, an Al-Qaida strongman and Osama Bin Laden's 
>> deputy, said
>> Israel was on Al-Qaida's list of upcoming targets. Intelligence 
>> sources said
>> Al-Qaida could try to execute a surprise attack using non-Arabs.
>>
>> Zawahiri is believed to be taking over the leadership of Al-Qaida, 
>> due to
>> Bin Laden's illness. Zawahiri and Bin Laden have apparently disagreed 
>> over
>> whether Al-Qaida's next target should be in a Western state or in the 
>> Middle
>> East. Bin Laden wanted to act in the United States and Europe while
>> Zawahiri, who is of Egyptian origin, wished to achieve goals in the 
>> Middle
>> East; namely, Israel and the Arab states that cooperate with it.
>>
>> Zawahiri pushed to set up
>> Al-Qaida cells in Sinai, taking advantage of the
>> Bedouin economic plight to carry out terror attacks against Egyptian 
>> targets
>> and Israeli tourists. He initiated terror acts in Jordan causing 
>> dozens of
>> fatalities and was behind the idea to intercept an aircraft carrying 
>> Israeli
>> tourists to East Africa and attack the hotel where Israelis were 
>> staying in
>> 2002.
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>>
>> About two weeks ago, on the anniversary of September 11, Zawahiri 
>> warned in
>> a video recording that Israel and the Gulf states could be Al-Qaida's 
>> next
>> targets of attack. Such attacks would be aimed at destroying the 
>> Western
>> economy. Israel increased its preparations for a preemptive strike 
>> following
>> his warning.
>>
>> Israel assumes that Al-Qaida will try to recruit non-Arabs to act 
>> against
>> Israel, as it tried to enlist Africans for the attacks in East 
>> Africa..
>> Israel knew of this
>> activity, but had difficulty cooperating with the
>> Americans to thwart it. However, Israel's cooperation with European
>> intelligence brought about the arrest of Al-Qaida people in East 
>> Africa.
>>
>> The most commonly cited surprise attack in Israel was the bombing of 
>> Mike's
>> Place in Tel Aviv by two Britons of Pakistani origin who were sent by
>> Al-Qaida.
>>
>> The two, who smuggled explosives into Israel, moved freely between 
>> Israel
>> and the territories with their British passports. About a month ago, 
>> British
>> authorities exposed British-born Al-Qaida activists of Pakistani 
>> origin, who
>> were planning to crash passenger airplanes over the ocean with liquid
>> explosives.
>>
>> Another possibility Al-Qaida is believed to be considering is 
>> infiltrating
>> Israel via Lebanon.
>>
>> Israel today faces two main fundamentalist groups - Sunni Al-Qaida and
>> Shi'ite
>> Hezbollah.
>>
>> Hezbollah is set on harming Israel, but it is hardly likely at this 
>> stage to
>> allow Al-Qaida to act independently in Lebanon without supervision.
>>
>>
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