[AGL] NAACP shameful?

Jon Ford jonmfordster at hotmail.com
Wed Nov 29 13:39:20 EST 2006

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Michele-- Why would you consider NAACP a "shameful" org today? Are they too
radical or not radical enough? Uncle Toms or Malcolm Xs? On the take? What's
the deal?

Jon

>From: michele mason <yaya.m at earthlink.net>

>Reply-To: survivors' reminiscences about Austin Ghetto Daze in the

>60s<austin-ghetto-list at pairlist.net>

>To: survivors' reminiscences about Austin Ghetto Daze in the

>60s<austin-ghetto-list at pairlist.net>

>Subject: Re: [AGL] The OVERTONS! I wanna know more about this...

>Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 09:26:57 -0600

>

>I forgot to mention Volma Overton. What a lovely, humble, persistent man.

>We worked together a good deal. I was so glad I decided to call him the

>week before he passed. He wanted to show me his book and introduce me to

>his publisher since I'm writing a similar memoir about working for civil

>rights in Shreveport. I'm so sorry we didn't make that meeting, but just so

>happy to have known the kind of man who's hard to find these days. The

>"new" NAACP is shameful—that's my opinion and I'm stickin to it. mm

>

>On Nov 27, 2006, at 10:51 AM, Frances Morey wrote:

>

>>Cute story, Michele,

>>What an interesting job for your mom!

>>Best,

>>Frances

>>

>>michele mason <yaya.m at earthlink.net> wrote:

>>>Mom was amazing!

>>>Once when I was working with the Overtons; singing-in at City council,

>>>a photog from (Texas Ranger?) got a pix of Mrs. Overton, Margo and

>>>myself front page. Someone in Mother's office waited for her to go to

>>>lunch and folded it carefully to the picture and propped it up on her

>>>desk. She came home crying, afraid to lose her job. I was grounded of

>>>course.

>>>It is so sad what Alzheimer can do to such a remarkable person. mm

>>>

>>>On Nov 27, 2006, at 10:07 AM, Jon Ford wrote:

>>>

>>> > Michelle-- that is some serious power. Also a test of moral stamina!

>>> >

>>> > Jon

>>> >

>>> >

>>> >> From: michele mason

>>> >> Reply-To: survivors' reminiscences about Austin Ghetto Daze in the

>>> >> 60s

>>> >> To: survivors' reminiscences about Austin Ghetto Daze in the

>>> >> 60s

>>> >> Subject: Re: [AGL] Figi House & Casino Royale

>>> >> Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2006 09:52:38 -0600

>>> >>

>>> >> My mom was in the Gov's Budget Division. From Shivers to Brisco, she

>>> >> purchased everything that went to the Govs mansion, as well as

>>> >> airplanes, etc. Nelley Connally (sp?) made her crazy—spending like no

>>> >> tomorrow. mm

>>> >>

>>> >> On Nov 26, 2006, at 12:32 PM, Jon Ford wrote:

>>> >>

>>> >>> Yes it was Dolph-- typo. I think my father worked for him too at

>>> >>> some point-- he was Press Secretary to a lot of Texas governors. He

>>> >>> knew everyone in Texas politics, and still hangs out with some of

>>> >>> the old-timers.

>>> >>>

>>> >>> Jon

>>> >>>

>>> >>>

>>> >>>> From: michele mason

>>> >>>> Reply-To: survivors' reminiscences about Austin Ghetto Daze in the

>>> >>>> 60s

>>> >>>> To: survivors' reminiscences about Austin Ghetto Daze in the

>>> >>>> 60s

>>> >>>> Subject: Re: [AGL] Figi House & Casino Royale

>>> >>>> Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 17:58:24 -0600

>>> >>>>

>>> >>>> Wasn't that "Dolph"? He was the last gov my mom worked for. mm

>>> >>>>

>>> >>>> On Nov 20, 2006, at 11:09 PM, Jon Ford wrote:

>>> >>>>

>>> >>>>>

>>> >>>>>

>>> >>>>> Micael-- Are you speaking of Doph Briscoe, onetime governor of

>>> >>>>> Texas? As a child,age about 14, I spent a pleasant time

>>> >>>>> recuperating from the notorious Mexican "tourista bug" at his

>>> >>>>> family's desolate ranch in South Texas. This was the only time I

>>> >>>>> ever "went Texas," but I was unfortunately unable to climb

>>> >>>>> aboard any gigantic longhorn steers or rope any broncos as I was

>>> >>>>> sick as a dog the whole week.

>>> >>>>>

>>> >>>>> Jon Ford

>>> >>>>>

>>> >>>>>

>>> >>>>>> From: micael at micaelpriest.com

>>> >>>>>> Reply-To: survivors' reminiscences about Austin Ghetto Daze in

>>> >>>>>> the 60s

>>> >>>>>> To: austin-ghetto-list at pairlist.net

>>> >>>>>> Subject: [AGL] Figi House & Casino Royale

>>> >>>>>> Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2006 17:14:52 -0600

>>> >>>>>>

>>> >>>>>>

>>> >>>>>> FIGI house is at 27th and Whitis, big white colonial...i

>>> >>>>>> lived next door at the Rhea house in 69 ,3 or 4 doors down from

>>> >>>>>> the Campus Guild(Socialist dorm with the constantly running LSD

>>> >>>>>> driven Bridge Game). FIGI's had the toga partys all right. fixt

>>> >>>>>> em up with a little herb from time to time. all ex highschool

>>> >>>>>> jocks though and generally pretty thick. We got in a snowball

>>> >>>>>> war withem the one time it snowed that winter, we whipped their

>>> >>>>>> asses, they responded by shooting an arrow through one of our

>>> >>>>>> guys' window upstairs with a note on it claiming victory. Bill

>>> >>>>>> Narum's Dad was a FIGI, his roomate was Dolf Briscoe, i knew

>>> >>>>>> Dolf was a football player but i was a little mystified about

>>> >>>>>> what kinda jock mr. Narum might have been...he was a fencer. I

>>> >>>>>> was a fencer at UT freshman and senior year. still have the

>>> >>>>>> back 3/4ths of my foil.

>>> >>>>>>

>>> >>>>>> As i recall, the first Casino Royale was a send up of Bond

>>> >>>>>> movies...maybe w/ Peter Sellers?

>>> >>>>>>

>>> >>>>>> aidedoo,

>>> >>>>>> micael priest

>>> >>>>>>

>>> >>>>>>

>>> >>>>>>

>>> >>>>>>

>>> >>>>>>

>>> >>>>>>

>>> >>>>>>

>>> >>>>>>

>>> >>>>>>

>>> >>>>>>

>>> >>>>>>

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>>> >>>>>>>

>>> >>>>>>> 1. Re: movie intro, don't go without a quality check (Wayne

>>> >>>>>>> Johnson)

>>> >>>>>>> 2. Re: movie intro, don't go without a quality check

>>> >>>>>>> (Fontaine Maverick)

>>> >>>>>>> 3. Re: movie intro, don't go without a quality check

>>> >>>>>>> (Frances Morey)

>>> >>>>>>> 4. Movies (Igor Loving)

>>> >>>>>>>

>>> >>>>>>>

>>> >>>>>>>

>>>-----------------------------------------------------------------

>>> >>>>>>> -- -- -

>>> >>>>>>>

>>> >>>>>>> Message: 1

>>> >>>>>>> Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2006 23:57:06 -0500

>>> >>>>>>> From: "Wayne Johnson"

>>> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AGL] movie intro, don't go without a quality check

>>> >>>>>>> To: "survivors' reminiscences about Austin Ghetto Daze in the

>>> >>>>>>> 60s"

>>> >>>>>>>

>>> >>>>>>> Message-ID: <019101c70c60$5761f620$0e606fcc at wayne8wvactdtz>

>>> >>>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

>>> >>>>>>>

>>> >>>>>>> The only frat that had really good toga parties were the Fijis.

>>> >>>>>>>

>>> >>>>>>> wgJ

>>> >>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: Fontaine Maverick To:

>>> >>>>>>> survivors' reminiscences about Austin Ghetto Daze in the 60s

>>> >>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, November 19, 2006 8:51 PM

>>> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AGL] movie intro, don't go without a quality

>>> >>>>>>> check

>>> >>>>>>>

>>> >>>>>>>

>>> >>>>>>> Oh-my-god, Frances. I bet you have never been to a fraternity

>>> >>>>>>> toga party! ----- Original Message ----- From: Frances

>>> >>>>>>> Morey To: survivors' reminiscences about Austin Ghetto Daze

>>> >>>>>>> in the 60s Sent: Sunday, November 19, 2006 7:11 PM

>>> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AGL] movie intro, don't go without a quality

>>> >>>>>>> check

>>> >>>>>>>

>>> >>>>>>>

>>> >>>>>>> I've put rotten tomatoes into my favorites file, for future

>>> >>>>>>> reference. I trust what ordinary people say about movies more

>>> >>>>>>> than I do critics or other industry types practicing hype. PF

>>> >>>>>>> seemed to me like the very definition of sacrilege. Antipathy

>>> >>>>>>> to religion was what made it so popular but violence for the

>>> >>>>>>> sake of violence, shock value, fundamental disrespect for an

>>> >>>>>>> institution offends me. The military and fraternities were

>>> >>>>>>> originally established to teach men how to be men however one

>>> >>>>>>> became "selective" [read: enlist the already civilized who

>>> >>>>>>> don't need such training] and the other a model for Animal

>>> >>>>>>> House [read: drunken druggies disrespectfully acting out

>>> >>>>>>> towards women and society.] Religions were "organized" to

>>> >>>>>>> discourage "sin" whatever that is thought to be, past and

>>> >>>>>>> present. Now no one is teaching males how to be men, women are

>>> >>>>>>> in ascendancy in the education and the professions because

>>> >>>>>>> women seem to have better instincts for applying themselves to

>>> >>>>>>> learning and having s

>>> >>>>>>> uccess in school training for the professions.

>>> >>>>>>> I used to brag that, without sin, I will go straight to

>>> >>>>>>> heaven when I die since I have never had an abortion nor got

>>> >>>>>>> paid for having sex. I have no regrets about the former.

>>> >>>>>>> Frances

>>> >>>>>>>

>>> >>>>>>> Fontaine Maverick wrote:

>>> >>>>>>> Borat? Not sure why you found PF reprehensible, but I

>>> >>>>>>> don't think Borat is the same type of movie (I haven't seen

>>> >>>>>>> it) It is a comedy, for one thing - but the tomatometer is

>>> >>>>>>> currently at 92%.

>>> >>>>>>>

>>> >>>>>>> Rotten Tomatoes is an excellent source of movie reviews -

>>> >>>>>>> usually over 100 of them for each movie.

>>> >>>>>>>

>>> >>>>>>> http://www.rottentomatoes.com/

>>> >>>>>>>

>>> >>>>>>> And Internet Movie Data Base is great for looking up stuff

>>> >>>>>>> when you can't remember the name of some actor, or want to

>>> >>>>>>> know what year something was made, etc.

>>> >>>>>>>

>>> >>>>>>> http://www.imdb.com

>>> >>>>>>>

>>> >>>>>>> And I just found out that Casino Royale is NOT a remake in

>>> >>>>>>> the Broccoli tradition, though it was once done as a comedy.

>>> >>>>>>> It is the first Bond novel that Broccoli ever wrote.

>>> >>>>>>>

>>> >>>>>>>

>>> >>>>>>>

>>> >>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: Frances Morey

>>> >>>>>>> To: survivors' reminiscences about Austin Ghetto Daze in

>>> >>>>>>> the 60s Sent: Sunday, November 19, 2006 5:55 PM

>>> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AGL] have empathy with the whole wide world

>>> >>>>>>>

>>> >>>>>>>

>>> >>>>>>> Thanks, Fontaine,

>>> >>>>>>> What does the tomatometer register for that B movie

>>> >>>>>>> Simmons was raving about now showing at the Alamo Drafthouse?

>>> >>>>>>> Borok, or something like that, is the name. I don't think I'll

>>> >>>>>>> like it in the same way that I found Pulp Fiction

>>> >>>>>>> reprehensible. Frances

>>> >>>>>>>

>>> >>>>>>>

>>> >>>>>>>

>>> >>>>>>>

>>> >>>>>>>

>>> >>>>>>>

>>> >>>>>>>

>>> >>>>>>>

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>>> >>>>>>>

>>> >>>>>>> Message: 2

>>> >>>>>>> Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2006 23:16:11 -0600

>>> >>>>>>> From: "Fontaine Maverick"

>>> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AGL] movie intro, don't go without a quality check

>>> >>>>>>> To: "survivors' reminiscences about Austin Ghetto Daze in the

>>> >>>>>>> 60s"

>>> >>>>>>>

>>> >>>>>>> Message-ID: <004801c70c62$fe36c8c0$6800a8c0 at NEWFONT>

>>> >>>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

>>> >>>>>>>

>>> >>>>>>> I dated one frat guy, and the frat was much like animal house -

>>> >>>>>>> strong non-conformist thread running through the membership-

>>> >>>>>>> they had a house south of campus - an old granite castle-like

>>> >>>>>>> place. Went to one toga party.Don't think it was Fiji, though.

>>> >>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: Wayne Johnson To:

>>> >>>>>>> survivors' reminiscences about Austin Ghetto Daze in the 60s

>>> >>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, November 19, 2006 10:57 PM

>>> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AGL] movie intro, don't go without a quality

>>> >>>>>>> check

>>> >>>>>>>

>>> >>>>>>>

>>> >>>>>>> The only frat that had really good toga parties were the Fijis.

>>> >>>>>>>

>>> >>>>>>> wgj

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>>> >>>>>>> ------------------------------

>>> >>>>>>>

>>> >>>>>>> Message: 3

>>> >>>>>>> Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2006 22:31:22 -0800 (PST)

>>> >>>>>>> From: Frances Morey

>>> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AGL] movie intro, don't go without a quality check

>>> >>>>>>> To: survivors' reminiscences about Austin Ghetto Daze in the 60s

>>> >>>>>>>

>>> >>>>>>> Message-ID: <779288.871.qm at web34615.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

>>> >>>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

>>> >>>>>>>

>>> >>>>>>> No, but I did go skinny dipping once.

>>> >>>>>>> Frances

>>> >>>>>>>

>>> >>>>>>> Fontaine Maverick wrote:

>>> >>>>>>> Oh-my-god, Frances. I bet you have never been to a

>>> >>>>>>> fraternity toga party! ----- Original Message ----- From:

>>> >>>>>>> Frances Morey To: survivors' reminiscences about Austin

>>> >>>>>>> Ghetto Daze in the 60s Sent: Sunday, November 19, 2006 7:11

>>> >>>>>>> PM

>>> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AGL] movie intro, don't go without a quality

>>> >>>>>>> check

>>> >>>>>>>

>>> >>>>>>>

>>> >>>>>>> I've put rotten tomatoes into my favorites file, for future

>>> >>>>>>> reference. I trust what ordinary people say about movies more

>>> >>>>>>> than I do critics or other industry types practicing hype. PF

>>> >>>>>>> seemed to me like the very definition of sacrilege. Antipathy

>>> >>>>>>> to religion was what made it so popular but violence for the

>>> >>>>>>> sake of violence, shock value, fundamental disrespect for an

>>> >>>>>>> institution offends me. The military and fraternities were

>>> >>>>>>> originally established to teach men how to be men however one

>>> >>>>>>> became "selective" [read: enlist the already civilized who

>>> >>>>>>> don't need such training] and the other a model for Animal

>>> >>>>>>> House [read: drunken druggies disrespectfully acting out

>>> >>>>>>> towards women and society.] Religions were "organized" to

>>> >>>>>>> discourage "sin" whatever that is thought to be, past and

>>> >>>>>>> present. Now no one is teaching males how to be men, women are

>>> >>>>>>> in ascendancy in the education and the professions because

>>> >>>>>>> women seem to have better instincts for applying themselves to

>>> >>>>>>> learning and having

>>> >>>>>>> success in school training for the professions.

>>> >>>>>>> I used to brag that, without sin, I will go straight to heaven

>>> >>>>>>> when I die since I have never had an abortion nor got paid for

>>> >>>>>>> having sex. I have no regrets about the former.

>>> >>>>>>> Frances

>>> >>>>>>>

>>> >>>>>>> Fontaine Maverick wrote:

>>> >>>>>>> Borat? Not sure why you found PF reprehensible, but I

>>> >>>>>>> don't think Borat is the same type of movie (I haven't seen it)

>>> >>>>>>> It is a comedy, for one thing - but the tomatometer is

>>> >>>>>>> currently at 92%.

>>> >>>>>>> Rotten Tomatoes is an excellent source of movie reviews -

>>> >>>>>>> usually over 100 of them for each movie.

>>> >>>>>>> http://www.rottentomatoes.com/

>>> >>>>>>> And Internet Movie Data Base is great for looking up stuff

>>> >>>>>>> when you can't remember the name of some actor, or want to know

>>> >>>>>>> what year something was made, etc.

>>> >>>>>>> http://www.imdb.com

>>> >>>>>>> And I just found out that Casino Royale is NOT a remake in

>>> >>>>>>> the Broccoli tradition, though it was once done as a comedy. It

>>> >>>>>>> is the first Bond novel that Broccoli ever wrote.

>>> >>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: Frances Morey

>>> >>>>>>> To: survivors' reminiscences about Austin Ghetto Daze in the

>>> >>>>>>> 60s Sent: Sunday, November 19, 2006 5:55 PM

>>> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AGL] have empathy with the whole wide world

>>> >>>>>>>

>>> >>>>>>>

>>> >>>>>>> Thanks, Fontaine,

>>> >>>>>>> What does the tomatometer register for that B movie Simmons

>>> >>>>>>> was raving about now showing at the Alamo Drafthouse? Borok,

>>> >>>>>>> or something like that, is the name. I don't think I'll like

>>> >>>>>>> it in the same way that I found Pulp Fiction reprehensible.

>>> >>>>>>> Frances

>>> >>>>>>>

>>> >>>>>>>

>>> >>>>>>>

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>>> >>>>>>> ------------------------------

>>> >>>>>>>

>>> >>>>>>> Message: 4

>>> >>>>>>> Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2006 04:17:38 -0600

>>> >>>>>>> From: "Igor Loving"

>>> >>>>>>> Subject: [AGL] Movies

>>> >>>>>>> To: austin-ghetto-list at pairlist.net

>>> >>>>>>> Message-ID:

>>> >>>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed

>>> >>>>>>>

>>> >>>>>>>

>>> >>>>>>> Oh, Oh, Movies. The last one I saw was some Indian thing at

>>> >>>>>>> Alamo Draft House that came with Indian Food, before that was

>>> >>>>>>> some stupid thing about penguinos marching around in the snow.

>>> >>>>>>> Not much of a movie freak and I never ever rent the things. I

>>> >>>>>>> have a collection of movies in boxes that have been gathering

>>> >>>>>>> dust for years and years and my computer has over sixty five

>>> >>>>>>> movies in memory. Real gems I am sure.

>>> >>>>>>>

>>> >>>>>>>

>>> >>>>>>> Charlie Loving

>>> >>>>>>>

>>> >>>>>>>

>>> >>>>>>>

>>> >>>>>>>

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