[AGL] homeless

Sun Apr 16 10:34:03 EDT 2017

There are an estimated 600 homeless in Corpus Christi. There are over than four times that many in Austin. When I was in San Francisco I went to the downtown library daily to use the internet. There were throngs of homeless in the downtown area. 
I was led to wonder if a homeless convention was going on. Turns out the city of SF was giving homeless people $400 a month to cover food. Can't have no homeless people starving in the streets or holding up people for their groceries. But they had to stop the program because it was such a homeless population draw. There is a Homeless Dead Memorial tree next to the Lady Bird Gazebo on Lake Lady Bird that has symbols of those who died homeless on the streets of Austin--over a hundred people a year die homeless. Richard Troxil is the homeless advocate behind this memorial tree and a few other programs. Even Cuba has a guaranteed annual income of $200 a month. It would be interesting if we would establish such a program, giving homeless people a check to repopulate and settle in small towns that have housing stock that goes uninhabited. Hell, how about Utah. I heard they have put the homeless in houses vacated by the housing meltdown that have sat foreclosed and empty for years. I heard a statistic that there are 6 vacant foreclosed homes for every homeless person. That's bizarre. It is like economically driven homelessness by design.Best,Frances

    On Sunday, April 16, 2017 7:26 AM, Charles Loving <lovingigor at gmail.com> wrote:

 I never see any homeless people in the outback. Rock Springs, Uvalde, Camp Wood, Marathon, Alpine, Marfa, and even Del Rio. Surely they are here or there but they must be invisible. 
We have a couple of old codgers here, gringos, that wander the streets of Camp Wood all day but they will talk to you and do not seem to be totally out of it. They just don't have anything to do. One is a retired Coastie and he surely gets a check every month. 
Do the homeless just live in large cities? I saw a few in Corpus Christi when I was there a few months ago. 
On Sun, Apr 16, 2017 at 12:33 AM, Frances Morey via Austin-ghetto-list <austin-ghetto-list at pairlist.net> wrote:

Yes. But paid models sounds a tad "National Enquirer." I do like the political implications as reportage. To most people the homeless are invisible. It's hard to have empathy with people you can't see. It might be interesting to give them a platform for showing photos they themselves take, selfies or of one another. That makes it more egalitarian.
I feel guilty about taking photos of other photographer's works. There is certainly enough mea culpa to go around. Yet I justify it as publicity, or my own critical review, touting photography as art.Best,Frances

Here's my favorite sunrise on the Gulf Coast.

    On Saturday, April 15, 2017 9:41 PM, TeleBob <telebob at gmail.com> wrote:

 I would and do think of it differently, and I frame it so.  The image that I capture here is an indictment of the system that helped put you here.
Your picture is another bullet for change.
Some go for it, some not.
Ask Diane Arbus or Vivian Maier about it.
On Sat, Apr 15, 2017 at 6:40 PM Frances Morey via Austin-ghetto-list <austin-ghetto-list at pairlist. net> wrote:

I paid "street models" in New Orleans who would dress up in elaborate costumes just for the purpose of being photographed for tips. Yet shooting the homeless seems intrusive and tacky. "May I take a photo of you in your most miserable state of homelessness?--I'll pay you"
I love the lyrics from a friend of Mike's who wrote a song, "Welcome to Selena Christi", this snippet is one of my favorite lyrics. Reminds me of a homeless person's sentiment.
"I live right here on Primrose,Come on down to visit,I don't charge admission,I'm not an exhibit."
Best,Frances 

    On Saturday, April 15, 2017 5:00 PM, TeleBob <telebob at gmail.com> wrote:

 Bull. I offer them money. You have to have a dialog. Couple of bucks a shot, worth it for their cooperation. Otherwise, get a long lens and treat them like wildlife.

On Sat, Apr 15, 2017 at 2:57 PM Michael Eisenstadt <eisenstadt0 at gmail.com> wrote:

  photos taken surreptiitiously. hight of rudeness to go slumming
 with a camera right in their face - and risking a punch in the face

 remember what happened to Robert Capa!

 On 4/15/2017 4:39 PM, TeleBob wrote:

 Remember what Robert Capa said, "if your pictures are not good enough, it's because you're not close enough." 

  On Sat, Apr 15, 2017 at 1:42 PM Michael Eisenstadt <eisenstadt0 at gmail.com> wrote:

2 views of a group of homeless camped out across the street
 from the library

-- 
Charlie Loving

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