[AGL] Bob Dylan show Dec. 2019

Charles Loving lovingigor at gmail.com
Thu Sep 17 12:46:52 EDT 2020


Nope.
I just think we need to look at the total world picture. The mines that are
destroying places in Chile, Mongolia, and China as well as Australia.
There is a problem that is being ignored here. Some people see it but the
majority are happy to go about their business and ignore the plight of
those over the hill and far away. Most people have no idea that small
children mine these elements and small children are slaves in a great part
of the world.

I saw a lot of what was happening when I was in Zaire, now the DRC. I just
did what I was told since there was nothing else I could do. To complain
would have, what, led to an accident?
The barefoot children working mines in Katanga. The adults loading the
trucks and sending them to the railhead where we (I was the liaison between
the Americans and French military mission, 100% legion. The Portuguese flew
the helicopter gunships) took over the security to make sure the stuff made
it to the coast.

Little kids pick cocoa in Ivory Coast for nothing. And yes I eat chocolate.
As I see it there is nothing that I can do to make the world a better place.

On Thu, Sep 17, 2020 at 11:26 AM Michael Eisenstadt <
mike.eisenstadt at gmail.com> wrote:

> So what would you suggest? Abolish private cars and the trucks that
> deliver everything?
>
> On 9/17/2020 10:57 AM, Frances Morey wrote:
>
> My favorite poem of the day...
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nw5KQMXDiM4
>
> Best,
> Frances
>
> On Thu, Sep 17, 2020 at 10:41 AM Charles Loving <lovingigor at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> *Make the Planet Great Again.*
>> *"Our future is being taken away."*
>> *Does Green mean less pollution?*
>> *The oil people propaganda machine may be working overtime but there is a
>> series on Al Jeezera that shows in pictures the problem with the green
>> idea.*
>>
>> *Look at the electric car for one. It is touted as the vehicle of the
>> future. But it uses a plethora of rare metals. Not to say gas-driven cars
>> don't. The electric car isn't so innocent.*
>>
>> *You will find 175 pounds of copper in the car.*
>> *Magnesium for the seats*
>> *Yttrium for the sensors*
>> *Tungsten for the chassis*
>> *Neodymium in the headlights*
>> *Lanthanum in the mirrors*
>> *Germanium for night vision*
>> *Ceram in the windscreen*
>> *Just those batteries use a lot of rare metals. And over time those
>> batteries will die and have to be thrown away or recycled.*
>> *Plus you will need Bismuth and Tantatuim *
>>
>> *All these metals and compounds are rare metals. China has 75% of these
>> metals. There are other sources of course where you find mines. Mines that
>> are destroying the countryside around them.*
>>
>> *Mining causes disastrous pollution. Heavy metals are dumped into
>> streams. There are millions of gallons of polluted wastewater, contaminated
>> with Flourine, Mercury, and other heavy metals that are dumped or stored in
>> ponds where the contaminates leach into the water table. *
>>
>> *The air suffers from dust created which is also saturated. The demand
>> for copper has increased. Chuquicamata in Chie produced 470,000 tons last
>> year alone from a mine that is a half-mile deep and 2 and a half miles
>> wide. The scene is one of devastation. The mine uses millions of gallons of
>> water in a desert where it hasn't recorded rain in 500 years. The closest
>> city is a four-hour drive. The population of 200,000 suffer from lung
>> disease. 10% have some sort of cardio problems or cancer due to heavy metal
>> pollution.*
>>
>> *The demand for different kinds of metal increased by 25% just last year.*
>>
>> *A wind machine uses 20 tons of aluminum and 500 tons of steel plus
>> copper and rare metals. According to some of the professors and experts on
>> the problem, they do not see wind and solar as a solution. The mining
>> causes more demand and more pollution of the landscape as well as the air.
>> And added to that is that the devices wear out over time and have to be
>> replaced. So far there has been little or no effort to recycle wind
>> turbines or solar cells. They are just added to the landfill.*
>>
>> *Norway we are told is the leader in the world of using renewables. Their
>> government ignores the ecological impact elsewhere since it doesn't happen
>> in Norway.*
>>
>> *So as we turn toward green are we just causing a new disaster?*
>> *It would seem so to me.*
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 4, 2020 at 4:56 AM Michael Eisenstadt <eisenstadt0 at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mMFyFmjsLzI
>>>
>>> I found this very recent Bob Dylan show by accident from just last year.
>>>
>>> It is like a Grateful Dead show which kinda grows on you. Check it out
>>> if you dig Dylan.
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Charlie Loving
>>
>
>

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Charlie Loving
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