[Jacob-list] experience and wisdom needed

Mon Apr 15 07:20:35 EDT 2002

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>    1. RE: Freckling - and a behavior observation
> (Heather Hettick)
>    2. Freckling (Mary Spahr)
>    3. Re: Freckling (Beatrice A. Gilbert)
>    4. Re: Freckling (Gary Tomas Fay)
>    5. Gestation (Robin Lynde)
>    6. RE: Gestation (Mary E Hansson)
>    7. Synchronized lambing (Grose)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 09:07:54 -0400
> From: Heather Hettick <hettick.1 at osu.edu>
> Subject: RE: [Jacob-list] Freckling - and a behavior
> observation
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> Reply-To: hettick.1 at osu.edu
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> I have varying degrees of freckled sheep and I also
> like to separate my
> colors sometimes.  I have sheep whose freckles don't
> extend to their wool so
> I use their white for pure white without a problem.
> I do enjoy having a
> couple of the heavily freckled girls as I like the
> mixed grey wool they
> produce.  As I don't have a drum carder I actually
> get an evener gray mix
> from those sheep than from mixing black and white. 
> I guess it would make
> sense for me to get a gray sheep for a nice gray,
> though and I have
> considered that.
> 
> Thinking back, I had an ewe line without freckles or
> leg spots but ended up
> culling or selling them.  The original had bad horns
> and icky wool so I sold
> her without papers to a family who wanted to breed
> for meat.  Her daughter
> was sold bred and then died after being injured a
> barn fire while carrying
> triplets who unfortunately couldn't be saved either.
>  The granddaughter, who
> is beautiful to look at but not the kind of wool I
> liked, is owned by the
> current owner of my 2002 ram and is doing well.
> 
> The reason I am thinking of not keeping potentially
> heavily freckled ewe
> lambs this year - I have one for sure and maybe two,
> is the reason I was
> drawn the Jacob breed is the variety and I really
> don't want an all freckled
> flock.  This is the first year I have a lamb with a
> brown eye and a blue
> eye, and that's pretty exciting to me.
> 
> I just love getting to know their personalities too.
>  My ewe lambs are
> getting to be over a month old now and I have a
> group of 4 really outgoing
> girls who come through the barrier every morning
> while I feed the bottle
> lambs.  The leader is the bottle lambs' sister, who
> we call the Princess
> because her mother is the dominant ewe and the name
> fits her.  The other 3
> are progeny of the two other senior/dominant ewes
> and I feed them a little
> snack of grain so I can observe them closely. 
> Princess is so tall and
> elegant, but she's not a big grain eater and prefers
> to watch and sniff me
> while I feed her brothers.  Do other people notice
> progeny of dominant or
> those ewes less afraid of people more friendly or
> dominant themselves at
> least as lambs.  I have noticed that shy or
> submissive ewe lambs often get
> more confident after they have their babies too.
> 
> Heather Hettick
> Moonstruck Jacob Sheep
> Creston, OH
> hettick.1 at osu.edu
> 
> 
> 
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> Message: 2
> From: "Mary Spahr" <spahrfarm at dragonbbs.com>
> To: "Jacob List Members" <jacob-list at jacobsheep.com>
> Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 11:36:07 -0400
> Subject: [Jacob-list] Freckling
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> This has been an interesting and informative topic. 
> Everyone has their =
> own breeding philosophies and I believe that our
> breed standard allows =
> for lots of diversity.  I would like to clarify that
> freckling is not an =
> automatic 'Fail' status with JSBA.  Could a JSC
> member fill us in as to =
> their standards on freckling?  In JSBA, Under
> Acceptable but Less =
> Desirable Traits, a small amount of freckling in
> white wool is allowed.  =
> Under Unacceptabl/Disqualifying Traits, Excessive
> freckling in the white =
> wool of young animals is considered unregisterable.
> I think my philosophy closely matches Linda's.  If
> there are other =
> qualities about the sheep that I like, I won't cull
> for some freckling.  =
> And like Edie, I would be more cautious about using
> a ram with a fair =
> amount of freckling.  A previous flock sire of ours,
> Puddleduck Sir =
> James, had a sprinkling of freckles.  This was
> insignificant to me in =
> light of the magnificent horns he has and his nice
> fleece.  Our present =
> flock sire, Craft's Carson has a few freckles also,
> but again, this =
> seems trivial because of his beautiful horns,
> fleece, conformation, and =
> the lambs he produces.=20
> Our original sheep back in 1988 had some freckling,
> so it is just =
> something that I have always observed.  There are
> still patches of white =
> that I can separate when I want to have brindle
> roving made from Oh. =
> Valley Natural Fibers.
> I do make a distinction between 'some'
> freckling/mottling, and =
> 'excessive' freckling/mottling.  I also make
> allowance for older sheep =
> who get more freckling as they age.  Our sheep spend
> most of their time =
> outdoors roaming around, so environment could play a
> part also.
> I had also been told that Dr. Philip Sponenberg had
> made the comment =
> that freckling is part of the make-up of Jacob sheep
> and they are the =
> only breed of sheep to carry this trait.  I do not
> know if this =
> statement is true or not true. =20
> I consider it a trait that I must try to 'balance'
> but certainly not to =
> the point where I feel it must be totally eradicated
> from our flock. =20
> Mary Spahr   =20
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