[Jacob-list] AGM

[Robert May]

Peg...I agree 100%.  Let's concentrate on lambing!  I
have 23 lambs on the ground, as of this morning.  A
single (pretty) ewe lamb born to one of my favorite
ewes.  About 15 ewes left to deliver.

Regards to all,
Bob
--- Marguerite Van Beek <pegvanbeek at msn.com> wrote:


> Bob

> 

> There been enough said on this issue.  We are all

> going to say something we reqret.  It is fine with

> me.  

> 

> Peggy

>   ----- Original Message ----- 

>   From: Robert May<mailto:newjerseyjacobs at yahoo.com>

> 

>   To: Marguerite Van Beek<mailto:pegvanbeek at msn.com>

> ; jacob-list<mailto:jacob-list at jacobsheep.com> ;

> Linda<mailto:patchworkfibers at alltel.net> 

>   Sent: Friday, February 23, 2007 11:31 AM

>   Subject: Re: [Jacob-list] AGM

> 

> 

>   Peg...The JSBA has never "said" that the Jacob

> Show at

>   the New Jersey State Fair was is not "important". 

> The

>   Board has never addressed/discussed this issue. 

> The

>   organization is dedicated to maintaining a

> registry

>   and preserving the Jacob Breed--and takes no

> position

>   on "showing" Jacobs.

> 

>   While some breeders believe (and I am one of them)

>   that "showing" our Jacobs is a way to promote the

>   breed to potential shepherds, if the membership

> were

>   polled on this issue (and there is no reason to do

> so)

>   there might very well be more JSBA members who

> don't

>   want to show their Jacobs.

> 

>   For those of us who do show...we realize that

> often,

>   the Judges will place the "larger" Jacobs at the

> top

>   of the class...which can give a false impression 

> to

>   the public that "bigger is better".  And...there

> is a

>   fear that breeders could overlook the great many

> other

>   qualities that Jacobs possess...and go for "size"

>   above all else.

> 

>   I too have brought more than my share of Jacobs to

> the

>   same shows that you have gone to.  Over 20 to

>   Maryland, at least 8-10 to the New Jersey State

> Fair;

>   18 to the Garden State Sheep & Fiber Festival; and

>   10-12 to the South Jersey Sheep & Wool Festival.

> 

>   You've drawn a false conclusion that: by having a

>   conflict with the dates of the 2007 JSBA AGM and

> the

>   NJ State Fair...that the JSBA has, somehow,

> decided

>   that the NJ Jacob show is not important.  IT's

> wrong

>   for you to assume that, and it's just not true.

> 

>   Here's an idea, Peg...the New Jersey State Fair

> runs

>   10 days, or so.  What about checking with CeCe to

> see

>   if a Jacob show could be held on the second

> weekend? 

>   If this isn't possible, I repeat my offer to

> provide

>   you with contact information of other Jacob

> breeders

>   who attended last year's Garden State Sheep &

> Fiber

>   Festival (a record no. of Jacobs/breeders) to see

> if

>   some of them might want to attend the Sussex

> County

>   event.

> 

>   Regards,

> 

>   Bob May

>   JSBA President

>   --- Marguerite Van Beek

> <pegvanbeek at msn.com<mailto:pegvanbeek at msn.com>>

> wrote:

> 

>   > Linda

>   > 

>   > You are right, not all people show their sheep. 

> It

>   > is a lot of hard work, money and time to do so. 

>   > Sometimes, I am requested to bring more than my

> fair

>   > share just to fill a class at MSWF double the

>   > required amount of 7.  It is by no means a

> picnic

>   > preparing for a show   but I do love to show

> mine. 

>   > They (Jacob)  might not like it but I do it is

> fun

>   > (at times).

>   > Plus it gives me a chance to see other Jacob

>   > breeders that I wouldn't get a chance to see.  

> No

>   > matter I am sure with Joan's assistance we can

> get

>   > the required amount or a least close to it for

> the

>   > NJ State Fair.   I am just surprised that after

>   > getting the Fair to hold this class the JSBA

> decides

>   > that it is not important.  

>   > 

>   > I never implied that the small breeder who

> doesn't

>   > show sheep is of no importance and no,  sheep

> shows

>   > are not the only way to promote the breed.  At

> this

>   > show my family not only shows Jacobs but puts

>   > together a display with the JSBA and JSC

> brochures,

>   > information, and sheep for the Heritage Tent all

>   > week long, 215,000 people attend the fair each

> year

>   > and a good portion of them love to see the Jacob

>   > Sheep.    

>   > 

>   > No Linda, I know  you will not miss me, you

> really

>   > don't know me,  I just a small insignificant

> breeder

>   > in NW New Jersey that opinions or concerns 

> aren't

>   > important to the JSBA I am just one of many.   

>   > 

>   > And no I am not leaving the JSBA I just might

>   > rethink my priorities when it comes to their

> support

>   > I might have too many conflicts in the near

> future.

>   > 

>   > Peggy

>   > 

>   > 

>   > 

>   > 

>   > 

>   > 

>   >   ----- Original Message ----- 

>   >   From:

>

Linda<mailto:patchworkfibers at alltel.net<mailto:patchworkfibers at alltel.net>>

> 

>   >   To: Marguerite Van

>

Beek<mailto:pegvanbeek at msn.com<mailto:pegvanbeek at msn.com>>

>   > ;

>

jacob-list<mailto:jacob-list at jacobsheep.com<mailto:jacob-list at jacobsheep.com>>

> ;

>   > Robert

>

May<mailto:newjerseyjacobs at yahoo.com<mailto:newjerseyjacobs at yahoo.com>>

> 

>   >   Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2007 8:05 PM

>   >   Subject: Re: [Jacob-list] AGM

>   > 

>   > 

>   >   Jacob Sheep are not just show sheep and there

> are

>   > alot of breeders that don't give a fig about

> shows. 

>   > I'm excited that so many Jacob owners that only

> have

>   > a few Jacobs and never show will be attending

> our

>   > AGM.  It's not all about showing.  It's also

> about

>   > breeders that just love Jacob Sheep.  It's just

> as

>   > important to promote Jacob Sheep to the breeder

> that

>   > doesn't show, doesn't care about fleece, doesn't

>   > care about selling lambs, and just gets a kick

> out

>   > of seeing their sheep.

>   > 

>   >   Don't think that these breeders are less

> important

>   > than those that show.  And don't think that

> sheep

>   > shows are the only way to promote our breed. 

>   > 

>   >   I hope you are not saying that you will leave

> JSBA

> 

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