[Jacob-list] Removing ear tags.

[Victoria da Roza]

The Calif. State vet  has had me keep the ear tags
from the former owners , out of state or not, so they
could trace to that  flock.  I am to put my ear tag on
the other ear.  So some of my girls look like they
have unmatching earrings.  I was told that once an ear
tag goes in, it must not be removed..... for tracing
purposes...cannot imagine the blood flow from removing
these tags with the way ours are put in.  The reason I
got my own tags from Premier was that they can be read
without catching each sheep and it has more air flow
between the 2 parts so I have never had an infection
or one pull out.  If the only purpose of these ugly
tags is to trace the sheep from origin, why would they
tell you to remove any of the tags? I am getting
pretty good at getting the tags in quickly so the
trauma is minimal but in my opinion the sheep would
truly look more primitive without all the ear gear.
Victoria
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> Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2007 19:10:03 -0400

> From: Linda <patchworkfibers at alltel.net>

> Subject: Re: [Jacob-list] Scrapie vs moving

> out-of-state/ tag question

> To: Gary Anderson <gbanderson at ucdavis.edu>,

> 	<jacob-list at jacobsheep.com>

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> You don't have to retag your sheep with your new ID,

> do you?  I wouldn't think you'd have to. I just got

> another application and guess I'll enroll later this

> fall.  I'm assuming, but someone correct me, please,

> if I'm wrong, that I do not tag, with my tags, 

> sheep in my flock that already have tags from

> enrolled flocks??  I have some sheep from out of

> state with the mandatory tags from flocks that are

> not enrolled in the voluntary program.  On those, I

> guess I'm supposed to leave those tags and add my

> tags? Hopefully, I'm allowed to cut out the lamb

> tags from the breeder, so that the sheep will have

> two tags at the most.

> 

> Linda

>  

> www.patchworkfibers.com

> Registered Jacob Sheep, Angora Rabbits, Handspun

> Yarn

> 

> > Regarding state-by-state differences in the

> voluntary scrapie

> > certification program, tomorrow a Michigan state

> veterinarian will

> > carry out our first inspection since we moved from

> California to

> > Michigan.  As pointed out by others, the program

> is federal but

> > administered by individual states.  We were

> assigned a new premises

> > identification number (i.e., one that begins with

> MI instead of our

> > previous ID number that began with CA) but were

> allowed to maintain

> > our status established in California (i.e., our

> "clock" was not

> > reset).  

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> Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2007 11:12:19 -0400

> From: " Royal Unzicker" <runzicker at verizon.net>

> Subject: Re: [Jacob-list] Scrapie vs moving

> out-of-state/ tag question

> To: "Linda" <patchworkfibers at alltel.net>,	"Gary

> Anderson"

> 	<gbanderson at ucdavis.edu>,

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> Linda,

> I have been in the voluntary scrapie program for ten

> years.  Yes, I know, I am still at year one!!!  

> People keep MAKING me buy at least one ewe every

> year.   Over this ten year period I have had at

> least three different vets come for my yearly flock

> inspection and report.   The first one said it is ok

> to keep the tag of the original owner, wether in or

> out of state.   The second vet made me cut out all

> old tags and retag all sheep that did not have my

> flock tag.   The third, and present, vet said it is

> ok to keep the tag of the original owner as long as

> they were in the voluntary program.  I just had to

> be sure to record on my yearly report the tag number

> and from whom I got them,  as was always the case.  

> If the sheep I bought did not have a "voluntary"

> tag,  the vet helped me cut out the mandatory tag

> and  put in my flock tag.   Early on I think there

> was some confusion even at the state level within

> the same state so I can well imagine there is not

> total agreement from o

>  ne state to another.  They may now be more in

> agreement on how it is to be done.   

> 

> On a related note, The first year I was in the

> program the state offered to do the Susceptibility

> to Scrapie blood test for rams.   At the time I had

> two Jacob rams and both were RR.  The last two

> years, the state vet offered to test four animals

> each year.  Of the eight, one ram and 7 ewes I had

> tested the last two years, six were RR and two were

> RQ.   Each animal represented a different

> flock/blood line.  If your scrapie tags get torn out

> rather frequently, advise your state vet.   In the

> early years I seem to lose too many, given the cost

> of the tags.   He reported this and I was called by

> the tag provider (Premier) who said they were

> working on a better tag.   From the last two batches

> of tags I got, I have lost no tags.   It may also be

> because I now put the tag much closer to the head.  

> 

> Royal 

>   ----- Original Message ----- 

>   From: Linda 

>   To: Gary Anderson ; jacob-list at jacobsheep.com 

>   Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2007 7:10 PM

>   Subject: Re: [Jacob-list] Scrapie vs moving

> out-of-state/ tag question

> 

> 

>   You don't have to retag your sheep with your new

> ID, do you?  I wouldn't think you'd have to. I just

> got another application and guess I'll enroll later

> this fall.  I'm assuming, but someone correct me,

> please, if I'm wrong, that I do not tag, with my

> tags,  sheep in my flock that already have tags from

> enrolled flocks??  I have some sheep from out of

> state with the mandatory tags from flocks that are

> not enrolled in the voluntary program.  On those, I

> guess I'm supposed to leave those tags and add my

> tags? Hopefully, I'm allowed to cut out the lamb

> tags from the breeder, so that the sheep will have

> two tags at the most.

> 

>   Linda

>    

>   www.patchworkfibers.com

>   Registered Jacob Sheep, Angora Rabbits, Handspun

> Yarn

> 

> 

>   > Regarding state-by-state differences in the

> voluntary scrapie

>   > certification program, tomorrow a Michigan state

> veterinarian will

>   > carry out our first inspection since we moved

> from California to

>   > Michigan.  As pointed out by others, the program

> is federal but

>   > administered by individual states.  We were

> assigned a new premises

>   > identification number (i.e., one that begins

> with MI instead of our

>   > previous ID number that began with CA) but were

> allowed to maintain

>   > our status established in California (i.e., our

> "clock" was not

>   > reset).  

> 

> 

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Victoria
Castle Rock Farm
Jacob Sheep & Nigerian Dwarf Goats
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