[Jacob-list] Breeding Ewe Lambs

[Laura C Frazier]

I'm soliciting folks' opinions about and experiences with breeding  
ewe lambs that are 6 or more months old.

This list is SO helpful. Thanks everyone!!
Laura

Laura C Frazier
FarmGirl Arts
(336) 971-3834
Kernersville, NC
http://home.rr.com/farmgirlarts



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>    1. Mountain state fair sheep show (hobbyknobfarm)

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>    3. Congenital Problems in Jacobs (ranchrat)

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> Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 12:32:39 -0400

> From: "hobbyknobfarm" <hobbyknobfarm at main.nc.us>

> Subject: [Jacob-list] Mountain state fair sheep show

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> We just had our wool sheep show here in Asheville. Elke brought 3  

> lambs, one of which was a very nice Jacob ewe lamb from her ewe and  

> my ram Andy (well, Andy actually was a result of a purchase of a  

> bred ewe from Cheryl 3 years ago, but he was born here) Anyway,  

> that little ewe lamb was 1st place in fine wool (we have no Jacob  

> class at our fair) and Grand Champion fleece in fine wool - she is  

> a very nice ewe lamb, and is for sale by the way, and the judge is  

> a fleece/spinner/breeder so she really looks at fleeces when she  

> judges. I had to toot Elke's horn as she is not on this list. You  

> too can show some Jacob's at SAFF here in October. I imagine this  

> little lamb will be there then along with my one ewe lamb and maybe  

> a yearling if I have the energy to get her used to the halter again.

> Elizabeth

> www.hobbyknobfarm.com

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> Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 14:21:55 -0600

> From: "ranchrat" <ranchrat at telusplanet.net>

> Subject: [Jacob-list] Jacob Owners - Alberta & Canada??

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> A question posed to the list.how many Canadians are left possessing

> Jacobs?  Here in Alberta, I can list many who no longer have  

> Jacobs, the

> stats are very scary and I suppose I should go on the Canadian  

> Livestock

> Records registry database and see if any of these former owned Jacobs

> are listed there under different ownership now.  I have heard many

> threaten to "get out of Jacobs" through some means such as making

> pepperoni out of their flock unless a valid owner steps forward  

> soon to

> buy their Jacobs.  No worries, ALL livestock is facing the same  

> fate.not

> picking on Jacobs solely by any means.  Even on this List there has  

> been

> downsizing and flock sales..sigh!

>

> In just the past few years, Alberta Jacob breeders gone now are: Lisa,

> Leonard, Judy (too old I believe now), Tyler, Bonnie, Pamela (may have

> taken some up North); there are probably more that even this I did not

> become acquainted with.the Can Rare Breeds flock is gone, dispersed.I

> believe there is only myself and Linda/Dan now left in Alberta and

> that's unsettling.  There are many livestock owners literally  

> "dumping"

> livestock at auctions all over the Prairies.if they had troubles with

> producing their own feed, they sure would have it now trying to buy  

> it.

> We, fortunately, put by all our alfalfa in June and even purchased all

> our livestock rations and grains at lower per bag prices than even  

> last

> year's.  We're good for just over two years now.but even we are

> concerned about future costs to keep on what we have.  Not to do this

> would be living under a rock.  Hauling in the oat straw bedding this

> weekend and there, same price as in year's past.we locked in beginning

> of this spring with our order.

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> One or two Jacob sheepers don't a happy "flock" make!

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> Tara Lee Higgins - Rat Ranch, Alberta

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> Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 14:22:05 -0600

> From: "ranchrat" <ranchrat at telusplanet.net>

> Subject: [Jacob-list] Congenital Problems in Jacobs

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> Heel low:

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> <Jacobflock at aol.com> Fred Horak wrote:

>

> 3. The "standardization" of the Jacob in North America can be laid to

> the

> small gene pool, often referred to as a genetic bottleneck and flock

> structure (few rams).  The study by the USDA-NGP (2/04) covered over

> 2,000 births

> and indicated the rapidly increasing percent of inbred  animals from

> 1983

> to 1994 and a more positive trend of reduced  inbreeding from 1995 to

> 2002.

> The 1983-1994 period was a period that  contributed greatly to  

> "fixing"

> the

> Jacob=American traits but  also marked a period of a relatively high

> incidence of congenital  problems in the breed.

>

> I have a 2003 Jacob ewe from what I consider are VERY inbred lines and

> she is stone cold deaf.  Manages quite well in the flock, but is a

> little "off" due to her condition.  Needless to say, I've never  

> allowed

> her to have progeny.

>

> Would you consider the deafness to be directly linked to her  

> inbreeding?

> I have no real background in how ovines inherit deafness, tho I do  

> have

> a lot of experience in the canine incident of deafness (BAER testing

> generations and differing levels of decibles along with the proven

> "white hair" incident of deafness).

>

> What other congenital problems have been identified in the Jacob breed

> regarding issues limiting genetic diversity (setting breed type by

> inbreeding).

>

> Doggone,

>

> Tara

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