[Jacob-list] Jacob-list Digest, Vol 88, Issue 8
Suzan Rutter
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Tue Sep 6 12:19:18 EDT 2011
I have five 2 horns to register so there is five more to the 2011. I prefer the two horns personally.
Sue Rutter
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Date: Mon, 05 Sep 2011 21:53:39 -0500
From: Mark Essen <messen at socket.net>
Subject: Re: [Jacob-list] two horned sheep
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I do not understand "We have people saying that over half the sheep
submitted and registered..." Can't this be quantified with real numbers?
Anybody know how JSC is doing? Do they still maintain a registry?
Of course, most Jacobs sheep are probably not known to the registry. I
hazard to say that there is no way to count how many sheep or horns are
not registered.
Is there any plan to make this guide book public? I would love to see
what all of the fuss is about.
Mark
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> On Mon, Sep 5, 2011 at 7:55 PM, Linda <patchworkfibers at windstream.net
> <mailto:patchworkfibers at windstream.net>> wrote:
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> On one hand, we have people saying that over half the sheep
> submitted and registered in JSBA are two horned. On the other
> hand, we have people saying there is no demand for two horned
> sheep and you can't sell them. Huh?
> Linda.
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Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2011 22:30:05 -0700
From: Robin Lynde <robin at meridianjacobs.com>
Subject: Re: [Jacob-list] two horned sheep
To: Mark Essen <messen at socket.net>
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Here are the real numbers for the last 3 1/2 years of JSBA registrations:
2008 49% 2H, 51% 4H
2009 48% 2H, 52% 4H
2010 48% 2H, 52% 4H
2011 to date 46% 2H, 53% 4H
Robin Lynde
JSBA Registrar
www.meridianjacobs.com
On Sep 5, 2011, at 7:53 PM, Mark Essen wrote:
>
> I do not understand "We have people saying that over half the sheep submitted and registered..." Can't this be quantified with real numbers?
> Anybody know how JSC is doing? Do they still maintain a registry?
> Of course, most Jacobs sheep are probably not known to the registry. I hazard to say that there is no way to count how many sheep or horns are not registered.
> Is there any plan to make this guide book public? I would love to see what all of the fuss is about.
> Mark
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>> On Mon, Sep 5, 2011 at 7:55 PM, Linda <patchworkfibers at windstream.net> wrote:
>> On one hand, we have people saying that over half the sheep submitted and registered in JSBA are two horned. On the other hand, we have people saying there is no demand for two horned sheep and you can't sell them. Huh?
>> Linda.
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Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 02:27:53 -0400
From: "Carl Fosbrink" <fourhornfarm at frontier.com>
Subject: Re: [Jacob-list] two horned sheep
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I have been counting the number of 2H vs 4H Jacobs registered in the JSBA Flock Books for the last few years and the number of 2Hs registered has gradually increased each year to where about 42% of Jacobs registered are now 2Hs. Most of the 2Hs are from the West Coast as was mentioned by someone, but there are also more 2Hs being registered in other parts of the U.S. I believe the reason for the increase in 2Hs is that more people are breeding for fleeces as there primary focus and another thing is that it is easier to breed a 2H than a good 4H. A good balanced and strong set of 4Hs is hard to get. In Indiana it is difficult to sell 2H Jacobs. The JSBA does not discriminate against 2H Jacobs. Many people associate the 4Hs with the Jacob breed as it is one of the few breeds of sheep with four horn genes, but there are several breeds of sheep that have 2Hs. I have never heard the statement that only 4Hs are true Jacobs, but maybe what they meant was this fact about Jacobs
being associated with 4Hs more than any other breed.
I believe non JSBA members can purchase a guide book from Shannon at the business office.
Missouri is one state where few people raise registered Jacobs. Mark can probably enlighten us on why this is. I always suspected it was because they have the exotic sales there that other states do not have and this gave them a market that most other states do not have.
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I do not understand "We have people saying that over half the sheep submitted and registered..." Can't this be quantified with real numbers?
Anybody know how JSC is doing? Do they still maintain a registry?
Of course, most Jacobs sheep are probably not known to the registry. I hazard to say that there is no way to count how many sheep or horns are not registered.
Is there any plan to make this guide book public? I would love to see what all of the fuss is about.
Mark
On Mon, Sep 5, 2011 at 7:55 PM, Linda <patchworkfibers at windstream.net> wrote:
On one hand, we have people saying that over half the sheep submitted and registered in JSBA are two horned. On the other hand, we have people saying there is no demand for two horned sheep and you can't sell them. Huh?
Linda.
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