[Retros] A Nit-Picking Question
Renny Bosch
rbosch at adelphia.net
Sun Dec 5 18:53:56 EST 2004
Thank you very much, Ryan. I had suspected that the given statement of 150
half-moves was probably the optimum but couldn't see the solution.
Renny Bosch
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ryan M." <DoubleExclam at comcast.net>
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Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2004 11:03 PM
Subject: RE: [Retros] A Nit-Picking Question
> The fastest route to uncapture is indeed 150 single moves.
>
> Retract:
>
> -1.Rh1-g1 Bb8-a7 -2.Rh5-h1 Ba7-b8 -3.Rd5-h5 Bb8-a7 -4.Rd2-d5 Ba7-b8
> -5.Rc2-d2 Bb8-a7
> -6.Rc1-c2 Kc2-b3 -7.Ra1-c1 Kd2-c2 -8.Bb4-a3 Ke1-d2 -9.Ra3-a1 Kd2-e1
> -10.Rb3-a3 Ke1-d2
> -11.Ba3-b4 Kd2-e1 -12.Rb5-b3 Ke1-d2 -13.Ra5-b5 Kd2-e1 -14.Ra7-a5
> Ke1-d2 -15.Rb7-a7 Ba7-b8
> -16.Rb8-b7 Kd2-e1 -17.Kg8-f8 Ke1-d2 -18.Rf8-b8 Re8-e7 -19.Kh8-g8
> Rb8-e8 -20.Rc8-f8 Rb7-b8
> -21.Kg8-h8 Bb8-a7 -22.Kf8-g8 Ra7-b7 -23.Ke7-f8 Ra5-a7 -24.Rd8-c8
> Ba7-b8 -25.Rb8-d8 Rb5-a5
> -26.Rb7-b8 Bb8-a7 -27.Ra7-b7 Rb3-b5 -28.Bb4-a3 Ra3-b3 -29.Ra5-a7
> Ra1-a3 -30.Rb5-a5 Rc1-a1
> -31.Ba5-b4 Rc2-c1 -32.Rb3-b5 Rd2-c2 -33.Ra3-b3 Rd6-d2 -34.Ra1-a3
> Rd5-d6 -35.Rc1-a1 Rf5-d5
> -36.Rc2-c1 Rf4-f5 -37.Rd2-c2 Re4-f4 -38.Rd6-d2 Rd4-e4 -39.Rd5-d6
> Rd2-d4 -40.Rd4-d5 Rc2-d2
> -41.Rd2-d4 Rc1-c2 -42.Rc2-d2 Ra1-c1 -43.Rc1-c2 Ra3-a1 -44.Ra1-c1
> Rb3-a3 -45.Ra3-a1 Rb5-b3
> -46.Bb4-a5 Ra5-b5 -47.Rb3-a3 Ra7-a5 -48.Ba3-b4 Rb7-a7 -49.Rb5-b3
> Ba7-b8 -50.Ra5-b5 Rb8-b7
> -51.Ra6-a5 Rg8-b8 -52.Ra5-a6 Bb8-a7 -53.Ra7-a5 Rh8-g8 -54.Rb7-a7
> Ba7-b8 -55.Rb8-b7 Rg8-h8
> -56.Rf8-b8 Bb8-a7 -57.Kd8-e7 Ba7-b8 -58.Kc8-d8 Rh8-g8 -59.Kb7-c8
> Rg8-h8 -60.Rb8-f8 Re8-g8
> -61.Kc8-b7 Re7-e8 -62.Rb7-b8 Bb8-a7 -63.Ra7-b7 Kd2-e1 -64.Ra5-a7
> Ke1-d2 -65.Rb5-a5 Kd2-e1
> -66.Rb3-b5 Ke1-d2 -67.Bb4-a3 Kd2-e1 -68.Ra3-b3 Kc2-d2 -69.Ra1-a3
> Kb3-c2 -70.Rc1-a1 Ka2-b3
> -71.Rc2-c1 Kb1-a2 -72.Rd2-c2 Ka2-b1 -73.Rd5-d2 Kb1-a2 -74.Rh5-d5
> Ka2-b1 -75.Rh1-h5 Ka1-a2
> -76.h3xBg4
>
> I noticed that the wK need not come out to b5 like the solution claimed.
> That would push the solution past 150 single moves.
>
> -Ryan McCracken
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: retros-admin at janko.at [mailto:retros-admin at janko.at] On Behalf Of
> Renny Bosch
> Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2004 8:37 PM
> To: retros at janko.at
> Subject: [Retros] A Nit-Picking Question
>
> In "A Collection of Instructive Problems" by Philippe Schnoebelen in the
> Retro Corner, there is a lovely problem by T. Volet (Ded. M. Caillaud &
> N. Plaksin - 1st Prize Rex Multiplex, 1983) with the stipulation "Draw".
> The position is:
>
> n4K2/b1pprppp/1p2p3/2p5/N1P3P1/BkP1P3/1P2PPP1/3N1BR1
>
> In the solution given at http://janko.at/Retros/Misc/Volet1sol.htm it is
> stated that "the last 75 moves (150 single moves) have been without any
> capture or pawn move". My question is: Is this statement meant to be
> the strongest that can be made, or does it allow the stronger statement
> to be ". . . the last 76.5 moves (153 single moves) . . ."?
>
. . .
>
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