[Retros] Two little SPG-challenges

Mario Richter mri_two at t-online.de
Wed Nov 10 08:39:18 EST 2004


Dear retro-friends,

maybe I can use the current low traffic on this
mailing-list to present to you two little challenges.

While playing a little bit with the "At-Home-Proofgame"-
theme, I found the following to positions:

Position A:


+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

|*R |*S |*B | . |*K |*B |*S |*R |

+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

|*P |*P | . |*P |*P |*P |*P |*P |

+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

| | . | | . | | . | | . |

+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

| . | | . | | . | | . | |

+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

| | . | | . | | . | | . |

+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

| . | | . | | . | | . | |

+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

| P | P | P | P | | P | P | P |

+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

| R | S | . | | K | B | S | R | (13 + 14)

+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

rnb1kbnr/pp1ppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPP1PPP/RN2KBNR

SPG in 7.5 moves


Position B:

+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

|*R |*S |*B |*Q |*K | . |*S |*R |

+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

|*P |*P |*P |*P |*P |*P | . | |

+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

| | . | | . | | . | | . |

+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

| . | | . | | . | | . | |

+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

| | . | | . | | . | | . |

+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

| . | | . | | . | | . | |

+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

| P | P | P | P | P | P | P | . |

+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

| R | | B | Q | K | B | . | | (12 + 13)

+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

rnbqk1nr/pppppp2/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPP1/R1BQKB2

SPG in 7.0 moves

(If these problems are already published or
otherwise anticipated, I would be grateful,
if somebody could provide author and source.)


First challenge:

Can you do better than 'natch' on a 350MHz-PII-machine?

(natch - with 128MB hash-table - solves
- Pos A in 3min 50s
- Pos B in 34min 04s)


If some of you try to solve the two problems,
I would be grateful if you can send me your
solving times.


Second challenge:

Both proof games contain a rather paradoxical
element (at least I consider them that way).

Can you construct longer proof games (not
necessarily of the "At-Home"-type), which show
the same element?


greetings
mario







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