[Retros] CORRECTION : Retros Digest, Vol 46, Issue 4

[Guy Sobrecases]

Good morning,
 
I can see a mistake in the b/m message.
 
13820, Die Schwalbe N°222: no WSg1
 
1krs2sr/pp3ppp/8/1qbppb2/8/3S4/PPP1PPPP/RSBQKB1R
White : Ke1 Qd1 Ra1h1 Bc1f1 Sd3b1 Pa2b2c2e2f2g2h2
Black : Kb8 Qb5 Rc8h8 Bc5f5 Sd8g8 Pa7b7f7g7h7d5e5
SPG 11.5
b)WSd3>c3
 
I hope that the published diagram is correct.
 
Thank you in advance.
Best wishes.
Guy. 


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Today's Topics:

   1. Die Schwalbe Heft 232, august 2008 (Joost de Heer)
   2. Re: Die Schwalbe Heft 232, august 2008 (Bernd Gr?frath)
   3. Re: Die Schwalbe Heft 232, august 2008 (Andrej Jakobcic)


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Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 18:41:56 +0200
From: Joost de Heer <joost at sanguis.xs4all.nl>
Subject: [Retros] Die Schwalbe Heft 232, august 2008
To: The Retrograde Analysis Mailing List <retros at janko.at>
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In this issue a large article by Silvio Baier on Pronkin pieces in 
proofgames. I'll post the originals in this article in another mail.

13819 - Alexander Yarosh
r2s2r1/pp5S/5s2/8/8/8/R6R/8 (3+6)
+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

|*R | . |   |*S |   | . |*R | . |

+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

|*P |*P | . |   | . |   | . | S |

+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

|   | . |   | . |   |*S |   | . |

+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

| . |   | . |   | . |   | . |   |

+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

|   | . |   | . |   | . |   | . |

+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

| . |   | . |   | . |   | . |   |

+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

| R | . |   | . |   | . |   | R |

+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

| . |   | . |   | . |   | . |   |

+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
Add 14 pawns, 5 officers and both kings for an IC.

13820 - Guy Sobrecases
1krs2sr/pp3ppp/8/1qbppb2/8/3S4/PPP1PPPP/RSBQKBSR (16+15)
+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

|   |*K |*R |*S |   | . |*S |*R |

+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

|*P |*P | . |   | . |*P |*P |*P |

+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

|   | . |   | . |   | . |   | . |

+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

| . |*Q |*B |*P |*P |*B | . |   |

+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

|   | . |   | . |   | . |   | . |

+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

| . |   | . | S | . |   | . |   |

+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

| P | P | P | . | P | P | P | P |

+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

| R | S | B | Q | K | B | S | R |

+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
Proofgame in 11.5
b) Sd3->c3

13821 - Jorge Joaquin Lois, Roberto Osorio
5bsr/p3pppp/1p1p1s2/2p2b2/6kP/P5Pr/KPPPPP2/RS1Q1B2 (13+15)
+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

|   | . |   | . |   |*B |*S |*R |

+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

|*P |   | . |   |*P |*P |*P |*P |

+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

|   |*P |   |*P |   |*S |   | . |

+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

| . |   |*P |   | . |*B | . |   |

+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

|   | . |   | . |   | . |*K | P |

+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

| P |   | . |   | . |   | P |*R |

+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

| K | P | P | P | P | P |   | . |

+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

| R | S | . | Q | . | B | . |   |

+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
Proofgame in 20.5

13822 - Michel Caillaud
br3bsr/pk1p1p2/pq3p1p/6B1/3Q1PB1/7S/PP2PP1P/RS1K3R (14+13)
+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

|*B |*R |   | . |   |*B |*S |*R |

+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

|*P |*K | . |*P | . |*P | . |   |

+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

|*P |*Q |   | . |   |*P |   |*P |

+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

| . |   | . |   | . |   | B |   |

+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

|   | . |   | Q |   | P | B | . |

+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

| . |   | . |   | . |   | . | S |

+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

| P | P |   | . | P | P |   | P |

+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

| R | S | . | K | . |   | . | R |

+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
Proofgame in 21.0

13823 - Silvio Baier
sb4s1/rppbp2p/4pp2/q2k3p/1r6/1p6/1PP1PP1P/RSBQKBSR (13+16)
+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

|*S |*B |   | . |   | . |*S | . |

+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

|*R |*P |*P |*B |*P |   | . |*P |

+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

|   | . |   | . |*P |*P |   | . |

+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

|*Q |   | . |*K | . |   | . |*P |

+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

|   |*R |   | . |   | . |   | . |

+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

| . |*P | . |   | . |   | . |   |

+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

|   | P | P | . | P | P |   | P |

+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

| R | S | B | Q | K | B | S | R |

+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
Proofgame in 26.5

13824 - Bernd Gr?frath
Dedicated to Wolfgang Dittmann's 75th birthday
rsbqK3/p1pppp2/8/8/1p6/4P3/PPPP1P1P/RSBQk2R (13+11)
+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

|*R |*S |*B |*Q | K | . |   | . |

+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

|*P |   |*P |*P |*P |*P | . |   |

+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

|   | . |   | . |   | . |   | . |

+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

| . |   | . |   | . |   | . |   |

+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

|   |*P |   | . |   | . |   | . |

+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

| . |   | . |   | P |   | . |   |

+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

| P | P | P | P |   | P |   | P |

+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

| R | S | B | Q |*K |   | . | R |

+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
Capturechess
a) Minimal number of king moves?
b) Proofgame in 10.5

13825 - Dragan Petrovi?
8/6p1/6P1/P1PPkPP1/1PRrqSpS/1PKpppBB/1spr1spp/4b1Qb (15+16)
+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

|   | . |   | . |   | . |   | . |

+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

| . |   | . |   | . |   |*P |   |

+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

|   | . |   | . |   | . | P | . |

+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

| P |   | P | P |*K | P | P |   |

+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

|   | P | R |*R |*Q | S |*P | S |

+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

| . | P | K |*P |*P |*P | B | B |

+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

|   |*S |*P |*R |   |*S |*P |*P |

+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

| . |   | . |   |*B |   | Q |*B |

+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
Shortest resolution (Circe)

13826 - G?nther Weeth
Dedicated to Thomas Brand
S3b3/k1S1PPpp/P5Pq/1s1Ks2p/8/6P1/1p3b2/2rr4 (8+12)
+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

| S | . |   | . |*B | . |   | . |

+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

|*K |   | S |[*]| P | P |*P |*P |

+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

| P | . |   | . |   | . | P |*Q |

+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

| . |*S | . | K |*S |   | . |*P |

+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

|   | . |   | . |   | . |   | . |

+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

| . |   | . |   | . |   | P |   |

+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

|   |*P |   | . |   |*B |   | . |

+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

| . |   |*R |*R | . |   | . |   |

+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
Magic square d7, Anticirce
-10 & #1, Proca retractor

13827 - Klaus Wenda
8/8/PpK5/bp6/bP6/kr1Q4/gPR1B3/2r1R3 (8+8)
+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

|   | . |   | . |   | . |   | . |

+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

| . |   | . |   | . |   | . |   |

+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

| P |*P | K | . |   | . |   | . |

+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

|*B |*P | . |   | . |   | . |   |

+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

|*B | P |   | . |   | . |   | . |

+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

|*K |*R | . | Q | . |   | . |   |

+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

|*G | P | R | . | B | . |   | . |

+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

| . |   |*R |   | R |   | . |   |

+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
Grasshopper a2, Anticirce
-4 & #1, Proca retractor

13828 - Mario Richter, Thomas Brand
8/8/8/8/8/5s2/5kr1/7K (1+3)
+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

|   | . |   | . |   | . |   | . |

+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

| . |   | . |   | . |   | . |   |

+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

|   | . |   | . |   | . |   | . |

+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

| . |   | . |   | . |   | . |   |

+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

|   | . |   | . |   | . |   | . |

+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

| . |   | . |   | . |*S | . |   |

+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

|   | . |   | . |   |*K |*R | . |

+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

| . |   | . |   | . |   | . | K |

+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
Isardam
Last move? Black to move

13829 - Werner Keym
Dedicated to Thomas Brand' introduction

Construct an IC with as many pieces as possible on a straight line. The 
piece that's farthest away from its homesquare is on a white square.

Original text:
Konstruiere ein Illegal Cluster mit m?glichst vielen Steinen auf einer 
Geraden. Der von seinem Ursprungsfeld am weitesten entfernte Stein steht 
auf wei?em Feld.


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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 09:50:04 +0200
From: Bernd Gr?frath <retromode at web.de>
Subject: Re: [Retros] Die Schwalbe Heft 232, august 2008
To: The Retrograde Analysis Mailing List <retros at janko.at>
Message-ID: <1145004728 at web.de>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15

Hello,

there are some problems how to translate the fairy condition
"Schlagschach" into other languages. (And even in German, there are
other names for it, for example "R?uberschach"). Dawson used the name
"Losing Game", and nowadays, "Losing Chess" is most
generally accepted (and thus preferable to "Capturechess" and other
alternatives). In French, the name is "Qui perd gagne".

Best wishes,

Bernd



> -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----

> Von: "Joost de Heer" <joost at sanguis.xs4all.nl>

> Gesendet: 21.08.08 18:43:41

> An: The Retrograde Analysis Mailing List <retros at janko.at>

> Betreff: [Retros] Die Schwalbe Heft 232, august 2008




> In this issue a large article by Silvio Baier on Pronkin pieces in 

> proofgames. I'll post the originals in this article in another mail.

> 

> 13819 - Alexander Yarosh

> r2s2r1/pp5S/5s2/8/8/8/R6R/8 (3+6)

> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

> |*R | . |   |*S |   | . |*R | . |

> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

> |*P |*P | . |   | . |   | . | S |

> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

> |   | . |   | . |   |*S |   | . |

> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

> | . |   | . |   | . |   | . |   |

> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

> |   | . |   | . |   | . |   | . |

> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

> | . |   | . |   | . |   | . |   |

> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

> | R | . |   | . |   | . |   | R |

> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

> | . |   | . |   | . |   | . |   |

> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

> Add 14 pawns, 5 officers and both kings for an IC.

> 

> 13820 - Guy Sobrecases

> 1krs2sr/pp3ppp/8/1qbppb2/8/3S4/PPP1PPPP/RSBQKBSR (16+15)

> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

> |   |*K |*R |*S |   | . |*S |*R |

> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

> |*P |*P | . |   | . |*P |*P |*P |

> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

> |   | . |   | . |   | . |   | . |

> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

> | . |*Q |*B |*P |*P |*B | . |   |

> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

> |   | . |   | . |   | . |   | . |

> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

> | . |   | . | S | . |   | . |   |

> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

> | P | P | P | . | P | P | P | P |

> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

> | R | S | B | Q | K | B | S | R |

> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

> Proofgame in 11.5

> b) Sd3->c3

> 

> 13821 - Jorge Joaquin Lois, Roberto Osorio

> 5bsr/p3pppp/1p1p1s2/2p2b2/6kP/P5Pr/KPPPPP2/RS1Q1B2 (13+15)

> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

> |   | . |   | . |   |*B |*S |*R |

> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

> |*P |   | . |   |*P |*P |*P |*P |

> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

> |   |*P |   |*P |   |*S |   | . |

> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

> | . |   |*P |   | . |*B | . |   |

> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

> |   | . |   | . |   | . |*K | P |

> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

> | P |   | . |   | . |   | P |*R |

> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

> | K | P | P | P | P | P |   | . |

> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

> | R | S | . | Q | . | B | . |   |

> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

> Proofgame in 20.5

> 

> 13822 - Michel Caillaud

> br3bsr/pk1p1p2/pq3p1p/6B1/3Q1PB1/7S/PP2PP1P/RS1K3R (14+13)

> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

> |*B |*R |   | . |   |*B |*S |*R |

> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

> |*P |*K | . |*P | . |*P | . |   |

> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

> |*P |*Q |   | . |   |*P |   |*P |

> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

> | . |   | . |   | . |   | B |   |

> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

> |   | . |   | Q |   | P | B | . |

> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

> | . |   | . |   | . |   | . | S |

> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

> | P | P |   | . | P | P |   | P |

> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

> | R | S | . | K | . |   | . | R |

> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

> Proofgame in 21.0

> 

> 13823 - Silvio Baier

> sb4s1/rppbp2p/4pp2/q2k3p/1r6/1p6/1PP1PP1P/RSBQKBSR (13+16)

> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

> |*S |*B |   | . |   | . |*S | . |

> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

> |*R |*P |*P |*B |*P |   | . |*P |

> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

> |   | . |   | . |*P |*P |   | . |

> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

> |*Q |   | . |*K | . |   | . |*P |

> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

> |   |*R |   | . |   | . |   | . |

> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

> | . |*P | . |   | . |   | . |   |

> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

> |   | P | P | . | P | P |   | P |

> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

> | R | S | B | Q | K | B | S | R |

> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

> Proofgame in 26.5

> 

> 13824 - Bernd Gr?frath

> Dedicated to Wolfgang Dittmann's 75th birthday

> rsbqK3/p1pppp2/8/8/1p6/4P3/PPPP1P1P/RSBQk2R (13+11)

> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

> |*R |*S |*B |*Q | K | . |   | . |

> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

> |*P |   |*P |*P |*P |*P | . |   |

> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

> |   | . |   | . |   | . |   | . |

> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

> | . |   | . |   | . |   | . |   |

> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

> |   |*P |   | . |   | . |   | . |

> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

> | . |   | . |   | P |   | . |   |

> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

> | P | P | P | P |   | P |   | P |

> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

> | R | S | B | Q |*K |   | . | R |

> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

> Capturechess

> a) Minimal number of king moves?

> b) Proofgame in 10.5

> 

> 13825 - Dragan Petrovi??

> 8/6p1/6P1/P1PPkPP1/1PRrqSpS/1PKpppBB/1spr1spp/4b1Qb (15+16)

> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

> |   | . |   | . |   | . |   | . |

> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

> | . |   | . |   | . |   |*P |   |

> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

> |   | . |   | . |   | . | P | . |

> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

> | P |   | P | P |*K | P | P |   |

> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

> |   | P | R |*R |*Q | S |*P | S |

> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

> | . | P | K |*P |*P |*P | B | B |

> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

> |   |*S |*P |*R |   |*S |*P |*P |

> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

> | . |   | . |   |*B |   | Q |*B |

> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

> Shortest resolution (Circe)

> 

> 13826 - G?nther Weeth

> Dedicated to Thomas Brand

> S3b3/k1S1PPpp/P5Pq/1s1Ks2p/8/6P1/1p3b2/2rr4 (8+12)

> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

> | S | . |   | . |*B | . |   | . |

> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

> |*K |   | S |[*]| P | P |*P |*P |

> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

> | P | . |   | . |   | . | P |*Q |

> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

> | . |*S | . | K |*S |   | . |*P |

> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

> |   | . |   | . |   | . |   | . |

> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

> | . |   | . |   | . |   | P |   |

> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

> |   |*P |   | . |   |*B |   | . |

> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

> | . |   |*R |*R | . |   | . |   |

> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

> Magic square d7, Anticirce

> -10 & #1, Proca retractor

> 

> 13827 - Klaus Wenda

> 8/8/PpK5/bp6/bP6/kr1Q4/gPR1B3/2r1R3 (8+8)

> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

> |   | . |   | . |   | . |   | . |

> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

> | . |   | . |   | . |   | . |   |

> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

> | P |*P | K | . |   | . |   | . |

> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

> |*B |*P | . |   | . |   | . |   |

> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

> |*B | P |   | . |   | . |   | . |

> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

> |*K |*R | . | Q | . |   | . |   |

> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

> |*G | P | R | . | B | . |   | . |

> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

> | . |   |*R |   | R |   | . |   |

> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

> Grasshopper a2, Anticirce

> -4 & #1, Proca retractor

> 

> 13828 - Mario Richter, Thomas Brand

> 8/8/8/8/8/5s2/5kr1/7K (1+3)

> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

> |   | . |   | . |   | . |   | . |

> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

> | . |   | . |   | . |   | . |   |

> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

> |   | . |   | . |   | . |   | . |

> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

> | . |   | . |   | . |   | . |   |

> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

> |   | . |   | . |   | . |   | . |

> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

> | . |   | . |   | . |*S | . |   |

> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

> |   | . |   | . |   |*K |*R | . |

> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

> | . |   | . |   | . |   | . | K |

> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

> Isardam

> Last move? Black to move

> 

> 13829 - Werner Keym

> Dedicated to Thomas Brand' introduction

> 

> Construct an IC with as many pieces as possible on a straight line. The 

> piece that's farthest away from its homesquare is on a white square.

> 

> Original text:

> Konstruiere ein Illegal Cluster mit m?glichst vielen Steinen auf einer 

> Geraden. Der von seinem Ursprungsfeld am weitesten entfernte Stein steht 

> auf wei?em Feld.

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Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 11:51:39 +0200
From: "Andrej Jakobcic" <andrej.jakobcic at guest.arnes.si>
Subject: Re: [Retros] Die Schwalbe Heft 232, august 2008
To: "The Retrograde Analysis Mailing List" <retros at janko.at>
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Hi!

Is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antichess and
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/R%C3%A4uberschach of any help?

Best,
Andrej

2008/8/22 Bernd Gr?frath <retromode at web.de>:

> Hello,

>

> there are some problems how to translate the fairy condition

"Schlagschach" into other languages. (And even in German, there are
other names for it, for example "R?uberschach"). Dawson used the name
"Losing Game", and nowadays, "Losing Chess" is most
generally accepted (and thus preferable to "Capturechess" and other
alternatives). In French, the name is "Qui perd gagne".

>

> Best wishes,

>

> Bernd

>

>

>> -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----

>> Von: "Joost de Heer" <joost at sanguis.xs4all.nl>

>> Gesendet: 21.08.08 18:43:41

>> An: The Retrograde Analysis Mailing List <retros at janko.at>

>> Betreff: [Retros] Die Schwalbe Heft 232, august 2008

>

>

>> In this issue a large article by Silvio Baier on Pronkin pieces in

>> proofgames. I'll post the originals in this article in another

mail.

>>

>> 13819 - Alexander Yarosh

>> r2s2r1/pp5S/5s2/8/8/8/R6R/8 (3+6)

>> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

>> |*R | . |   |*S |   | . |*R | . |

>> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

>> |*P |*P | . |   | . |   | . | S |

>> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

>> |   | . |   | . |   |*S |   | . |

>> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

>> | . |   | . |   | . |   | . |   |

>> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

>> |   | . |   | . |   | . |   | . |

>> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

>> | . |   | . |   | . |   | . |   |

>> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

>> | R | . |   | . |   | . |   | R |

>> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

>> | . |   | . |   | . |   | . |   |

>> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

>> Add 14 pawns, 5 officers and both kings for an IC.

>>

>> 13820 - Guy Sobrecases

>> 1krs2sr/pp3ppp/8/1qbppb2/8/3S4/PPP1PPPP/RSBQKBSR (16+15)

>> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

>> |   |*K |*R |*S |   | . |*S |*R |

>> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

>> |*P |*P | . |   | . |*P |*P |*P |

>> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

>> |   | . |   | . |   | . |   | . |

>> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

>> | . |*Q |*B |*P |*P |*B | . |   |

>> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

>> |   | . |   | . |   | . |   | . |

>> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

>> | . |   | . | S | . |   | . |   |

>> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

>> | P | P | P | . | P | P | P | P |

>> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

>> | R | S | B | Q | K | B | S | R |

>> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

>> Proofgame in 11.5

>> b) Sd3->c3

>>

>> 13821 - Jorge Joaquin Lois, Roberto Osorio

>> 5bsr/p3pppp/1p1p1s2/2p2b2/6kP/P5Pr/KPPPPP2/RS1Q1B2 (13+15)

>> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

>> |   | . |   | . |   |*B |*S |*R |

>> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

>> |*P |   | . |   |*P |*P |*P |*P |

>> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

>> |   |*P |   |*P |   |*S |   | . |

>> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

>> | . |   |*P |   | . |*B | . |   |

>> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

>> |   | . |   | . |   | . |*K | P |

>> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

>> | P |   | . |   | . |   | P |*R |

>> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

>> | K | P | P | P | P | P |   | . |

>> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

>> | R | S | . | Q | . | B | . |   |

>> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

>> Proofgame in 20.5

>>

>> 13822 - Michel Caillaud

>> br3bsr/pk1p1p2/pq3p1p/6B1/3Q1PB1/7S/PP2PP1P/RS1K3R (14+13)

>> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

>> |*B |*R |   | . |   |*B |*S |*R |

>> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

>> |*P |*K | . |*P | . |*P | . |   |

>> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

>> |*P |*Q |   | . |   |*P |   |*P |

>> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

>> | . |   | . |   | . |   | B |   |

>> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

>> |   | . |   | Q |   | P | B | . |

>> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

>> | . |   | . |   | . |   | . | S |

>> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

>> | P | P |   | . | P | P |   | P |

>> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

>> | R | S | . | K | . |   | . | R |

>> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

>> Proofgame in 21.0

>>

>> 13823 - Silvio Baier

>> sb4s1/rppbp2p/4pp2/q2k3p/1r6/1p6/1PP1PP1P/RSBQKBSR (13+16)

>> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

>> |*S |*B |   | . |   | . |*S | . |

>> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

>> |*R |*P |*P |*B |*P |   | . |*P |

>> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

>> |   | . |   | . |*P |*P |   | . |

>> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

>> |*Q |   | . |*K | . |   | . |*P |

>> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

>> |   |*R |   | . |   | . |   | . |

>> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

>> | . |*P | . |   | . |   | . |   |

>> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

>> |   | P | P | . | P | P |   | P |

>> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

>> | R | S | B | Q | K | B | S | R |

>> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

>> Proofgame in 26.5

>>

>> 13824 - Bernd Gr?frath

>> Dedicated to Wolfgang Dittmann's 75th birthday

>> rsbqK3/p1pppp2/8/8/1p6/4P3/PPPP1P1P/RSBQk2R (13+11)

>> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

>> |*R |*S |*B |*Q | K | . |   | . |

>> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

>> |*P |   |*P |*P |*P |*P | . |   |

>> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

>> |   | . |   | . |   | . |   | . |

>> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

>> | . |   | . |   | . |   | . |   |

>> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

>> |   |*P |   | . |   | . |   | . |

>> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

>> | . |   | . |   | P |   | . |   |

>> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

>> | P | P | P | P |   | P |   | P |

>> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

>> | R | S | B | Q |*K |   | . | R |

>> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

>> Capturechess

>> a) Minimal number of king moves?

>> b) Proofgame in 10.5

>>

>> 13825 - Dragan Petrovi?

>> 8/6p1/6P1/P1PPkPP1/1PRrqSpS/1PKpppBB/1spr1spp/4b1Qb (15+16)

>> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

>> |   | . |   | . |   | . |   | . |

>> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

>> | . |   | . |   | . |   |*P |   |

>> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

>> |   | . |   | . |   | . | P | . |

>> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

>> | P |   | P | P |*K | P | P |   |

>> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

>> |   | P | R |*R |*Q | S |*P | S |

>> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

>> | . | P | K |*P |*P |*P | B | B |

>> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

>> |   |*S |*P |*R |   |*S |*P |*P |

>> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

>> | . |   | . |   |*B |   | Q |*B |

>> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

>> Shortest resolution (Circe)

>>

>> 13826 - G?nther Weeth

>> Dedicated to Thomas Brand

>> S3b3/k1S1PPpp/P5Pq/1s1Ks2p/8/6P1/1p3b2/2rr4 (8+12)

>> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

>> | S | . |   | . |*B | . |   | . |

>> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

>> |*K |   | S |[*]| P | P |*P |*P |

>> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

>> | P | . |   | . |   | . | P |*Q |

>> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

>> | . |*S | . | K |*S |   | . |*P |

>> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

>> |   | . |   | . |   | . |   | . |

>> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

>> | . |   | . |   | . |   | P |   |

>> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

>> |   |*P |   | . |   |*B |   | . |

>> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

>> | . |   |*R |*R | . |   | . |   |

>> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

>> Magic square d7, Anticirce

>> -10 & #1, Proca retractor

>>

>> 13827 - Klaus Wenda

>> 8/8/PpK5/bp6/bP6/kr1Q4/gPR1B3/2r1R3 (8+8)

>> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

>> |   | . |   | . |   | . |   | . |

>> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

>> | . |   | . |   | . |   | . |   |

>> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

>> | P |*P | K | . |   | . |   | . |

>> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

>> |*B |*P | . |   | . |   | . |   |

>> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

>> |*B | P |   | . |   | . |   | . |

>> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

>> |*K |*R | . | Q | . |   | . |   |

>> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

>> |*G | P | R | . | B | . |   | . |

>> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

>> | . |   |*R |   | R |   | . |   |

>> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

>> Grasshopper a2, Anticirce

>> -4 & #1, Proca retractor

>>

>> 13828 - Mario Richter, Thomas Brand

>> 8/8/8/8/8/5s2/5kr1/7K (1+3)

>> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

>> |   | . |   | . |   | . |   | . |

>> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

>> | . |   | . |   | . |   | . |   |

>> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

>> |   | . |   | . |   | . |   | . |

>> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

>> | . |   | . |   | . |   | . |   |

>> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

>> |   | . |   | . |   | . |   | . |

>> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

>> | . |   | . |   | . |*S | . |   |

>> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

>> |   | . |   | . |   |*K |*R | . |

>> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

>> | . |   | . |   | . |   | . | K |

>> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

>> Isardam

>> Last move? Black to move

>>

>> 13829 - Werner Keym

>> Dedicated to Thomas Brand' introduction

>>

>> Construct an IC with as many pieces as possible on a straight line.

The

>> piece that's farthest away from its homesquare is on a white

square.

>>

>> Original text:

>> Konstruiere ein Illegal Cluster mit m?glichst vielen Steinen auf einer

>> Geraden. Der von seinem Ursprungsfeld am weitesten entfernte Stein

steht

>> auf wei?em Feld.

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>>

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