[Retros] Are the King and the Rook pieces or what?
A J Mestel
A.J.Mestel at damtp.cam.ac.uk
Mon Jan 28 09:03:40 EST 2008
I remember when FIDE were finalising the Touch-Move rules, and they listed
all possible combinations e.g. I touch my WKe1, WRa1 and WRh1
simultanously with a BRd2 and BPh6. Do I have to play "0-0, Kxd2, or Rxh6"
or can I play Rh5 or Rd1 etc etc?
For obvious reasons, we called these "The Octopus rules."
Jonathan
On Mon, 28 Jan 2008, andrew buchanan wrote:
> Hi Tom,
>
> I don't feel any sense of frustration at an obtuse player. Nor would I demand
> that this issue arise solely out of error. If a player wishes to playfully
> touch a number of the different pieces prior to making a move, that is totally
> ok by me.
>
> Nor do I feel that the rules are badly drafted, since they are intended to give
> support to the games as it is played, and the arbiters are explicitly given
> authority to fill in the games. It seems clear that 4.4 over-rides 4.3, since
> it gives guidance for a very specific circumstance. It seems clear that "intent
> to castle" is meant to be a helpful comment, to show when 4.4 would be likely
> be relevant, not to imply that the laws depend on some philosophical resolution
> of the question of intensionality.
>
> The rules of chess are basically so simple, that there is not much damage that
> can be done to the game by the level of imprecisions in the language that we
> see.
>
> Instead, I reserve my frustration for those who have impeded the refinement of
> the Codex.
>
> That Art 4 is included as applying to chess problems, is further indication
> that basically the Codex was a worthy first draft, put together by well meaning
> people probably after a nice lunch. But they failed to recognize the greater
> degree of precision which problemists (particularly we retro folk) require
> compared to game players.
>
> Is there any way that the stalled process of developing the Codex could be
> kicked into action?
>
> Just my opinion,
> Andrew Buchanan.
>
>
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>>
>> But Guus, as frustrated as one might be with such an obtuse player, aren't
>> those exactly the reasons why the move would not playable in spite of an
>> honest
>> intent? If not for an error or some sort, the issue would not arise at all.
>>
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