[Retros] Sam Loyd's Cyclopedia of Puzzles; Fabel's source again

[Bernd Gräfrath]

Thanks, Mario!

Bernd


> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----

> Von: "Mario Richter" <mri_two at t-online.de>

> Gesendet: 16.11.09 12:48:09

> An: "The Retrograde Analysis Mailing List" <retros at janko.at>

> Betreff: Re: [Retros] Sam Loyd's Cyclopedia of Puzzles; Fabel's source again




> Hello Bernd,

> 

> > Like Mario, I would be very interested in early sources which ascribe the problem to Loyd. 

> > Of course it would be best if the original publication (by Loyd or Fischer) in a magazine

> > could be found.

> 

> (Brownson's) Chess Journal, Third Series, No.142, Dec.1890, p.4 has the following problem:

> 

> 2721. Curiosa

> 

> w: Nd8 Rg8 Kd6 Pf3 Pd2 Qb1 Bg1 Rh1

> b: Pa7 Pb7 Pf7 Pg6 Pc4 Kd4 Pd3 Pe3 Ph3 Pf2

> 

> (FEN: 3N2R1/pp3p2/3K2p1/8/2pk4/3ppP1p/3P1p2/1Q4BR)

> 

> Remove a P, and mate in one move.

> 

> If you look at it, you will see, that the only difference to the

> Fischer-or-Loyd-problem is, that instead of a white Bg2 a wPf3 is used,

> so I don't think that your explanation

> 

> >... it is also possible that Fischer contributed originals to Weiss's book...

> 

> works here ...

> 

> 

> Btw., on the same page, there is also

> 

> 2722. By E.Barbe

> 

> w: Ra7 Pf6 Pg6 Qb5 Rh5 Bc4 Bd4 Ke4

> b: Kh8 Pb7 Ph7 Na6 Pc6 Ph6 Pe5 Pf4 Rg4 Pd3 Pf3 Bc2 Pe2 Qg2 Re1

> 

> (FEN: 7k/Rp5p/n1p2PPp/1Q2p2R/2BBKpr1/3p1p2/2b1p1q1/4r3)

> 

> Remove a P, and mate in one move.

> 

> The intended solution

> -b7: QRh7 (Ra7xh7#)

> -c6: Qe8#

> -e5: Pf7#

> -h6: KRh7 (Rh5xh7#)

> -h7: KRh6 (Rh5xh6#)

> -f6: Be5

> 

> shows, that neither the 9-pawn-illegality (s. -f6) nor illegalities by

> invalid capture balances (s. -b7) were the main focus of such problems

> at that time.

> 

> Best regards,

> 

>   mario

> 

> 

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