[Retros] Messigny 2013 results

[Henrik Juel]

It is not as bad as all that, when you limit yourself to one fairy
condition at a time. But when you combine two or more conditions, anything
goes in many cases. Usually the composer is happy when the solver he
happens to use declares the problem C+; but this of course may depend on
the solver. It is practically impossible to clean up the mess arising when
multiple conditions are used; there are just too many combinations.

Henrik


2013/7/5 Kevin Begley <kevinjbegley at gmail.com>


> Joost,

>

> "I'm starting to agree more and more with Kevin's 'fairy chess == mess'

> attitude...."

>

> Everybody should agree that fairy chess is a monster train wreck (which,

> remarkably, is still accelerating).

> The problem is, it's so bad, nobody can agree where to begin cleaning up

> this mess.

>

> I gave up trying.

> I'm looking for a new track.

>

>

>

>

>

> On Fri, Jul 5, 2013 at 12:29 AM, Joost de Heer <joost at sanguis.xs4all.nl>wrote:

>

>> (Apologies, I know that the retro list probably isn't the best place to

>> discuss fairy mess......)

>>

>> > Nicolas Dupont later showed me a Monochrome Chess definition that

>> > explicitly mentions queen side castling (most others apparently don't

>> > mention it). This definition says that queen side castling is illegal,

>> so

>> > I now think that it should be illegal,

>>

>> Just because one definition says it's illegal doesn't make it illegal.

>>

>> - In (Hyper)volage, the rook will not change colour after queenside

>> castling

>> - In monochrome, queenside castling is forbidden because the rook changes

>> square colour

>>

>> So in one case it matters that the square colour changes, in the other it

>> doesn't.

>>

>> - In Einstein, the rook will become a bishop after castling

>> - In Antiandernach, the rook will not change colour after castling.

>> - In Haan, castling leaves two holes

>>

>> So in some cases aftereffects are applied to the rook, in others they

>> aren't.

>>

>> I'm starting to agree more and more with Kevin's 'fairy chess == mess'

>> attitude....

>>

>> Joost

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