[Retros] More fun with rules
Joost de Heer
joost at sanguis.xs4all.nl
Mon Jun 16 07:11:48 EDT 2014
Kevin,
All it takes is one claim, after that I have at least a draw: I make
illegal moves until I either checkmate my opponent (win), until my
opponent makes an illegal move himself (which I can claim, and the game
is reinstated to the original source of the illegality, draw), or until
my opponent claims a second illegality (see previous point, draw).
Joost
On 06/16/2014 12:59 PM, Kevin Begley wrote:
> err, I suppose you can make this claim against yourself, can't you?
> OK, you can draw anyone, providing they do not resign.
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 3:56 AM, Kevin Begley <kevinjbegley at gmail.com
> <mailto:kevinjbegley at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> @Joost,
>
> Suppose your opponent does not claim that an illegal move was made?
> Suppose, for example, that your opponent is willing allow even
> checkmate, in order to disprove your "draw anyone" claim? :-)
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 2:42 AM, Joost de Heer
> <joost at sanguis.xs4all.nl <mailto:joost at sanguis.xs4all.nl>> wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> >From the FIDE handbook
> (http://www.fide.com/fide/__handbook.html?id=171&view=__article
> <http://www.fide.com/fide/handbook.html?id=171&view=article>):
>
> ----
> 7.5
>
> If during a game it is found that an illegal move has been
> completed, the position immediately before the irregularity
> shall be reinstated. If the position immediately before the
> irregularity cannot be determined, the game shall continue from
> the last identifiable position prior to the irregularity.
> Articles 4.3 and 4.7 apply to the move replacing the illegal
> move. The game shall then continue from this reinstated position.
> If the player has moved a pawn to the furthest distant
> rank, pressed the clock, but not replaced the pawn with a new
> piece, the move is illegal. The pawn shall be replaced by a
> queen of the same colour as the pawn.
> ----
> 9.2
>
> The game is drawn, upon a correct claim by a player having the
> move, when the same position for at least the third time (not
> necessarily by a repetition of moves)
> ----
>
> With these rules I can draw against anyone: I play an illegal
> move, the position is reinstated, I play another illegal move,
> the position is reinstated again, and now I can claim a 3-fold
> repetition draw because this position occurred for the 3rd time
> in this game :)
>
> Furthermore, the clausule 'in the same game' is missing from the
> 3R rule: The beginposition has occurred millions of times with
> the same player to move and castling rights equal.
>
> Joost
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