why sudden silence?

Jon Ford jonmfordster@hotmail.com
Thu, 15 Nov 2001 12:19:38 -0800


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<P>Well, Bob--let's just say I'm "waiting and seeing." Trying to be hopeful. The US has a good opportunity in Afghanistan, as does the UN and the surrounding Arab states.We could see some improved international cooperation coming out of this.&nbsp; But has Muslim fundamentalism "gone away" beause we drove out the Taliban like an elephant stomping a flea? No. Has terrorism? Nope. Have we dealt with the way our corporations exploit people around the world in the name of&nbsp; free trade?&nbsp; Not a clue. So what have we accomplished? We've given up some of our civil lierties at home-- will we get them back? Don't count on it.Our economy is in the toilet, and we've fired up a really big budget deficit, with no end in sight to the spending on war and corporate bail-outs. Not altogether a great time to be an American, but we sure showed those no good Talibaners a thingt or three, ha ha ha!</P>
<P>Jon<BR><BR></P></DIV>
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<DIV></DIV>&gt;From: "telebob x" <TELEBOB98@HOTMAIL.COM>
<DIV></DIV>&gt;To: austin-ghetto-list@pairlist.net 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Subject: why sudden silence? 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 16:14:05 +0000 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Gee, what has happened to the usual drumbeat of defeat from Roger, 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Jon, et 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;al ? Shocking! The USA did something right again. And not for the 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;wrong 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;reasons either. 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;tele 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Ha ha ha 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;by 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Christopher Hitchens 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Wednesday November 14, 2001 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;The Guardian 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;There was a time in my life when I did a fair bit of 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;work for the tempestuous Lucretia Stewart, then editor 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;of the American Express travel magazine, Departures. 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Together, we evolved a harmless satire of the slightly 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;drivelling style employed by the journalists of 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;tourism. "Land of Contrasts" was our shorthand for it. 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;("Jerusalem: an enthralling blend of old and new." 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;"South Africa: a harmony in black and white." 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;"Belfast, where ancient meets modern.") It was as you 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;can see, no difficult task. I began to notice a few 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;weeks ago that my enemies in the "peace" movement had 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;decided to borrow from this tattered style book. The 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;mantra, especially in the letters to this newspaper, 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;was: "Afghanistan, where the world's richest country 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;rains bombs on the world's poorest country." 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Poor fools. They should never have tried to beat me at 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;this game. What about, "Afghanistan, where the world's 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;most open society confronts the world's most closed 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;one"? "Where American women pilots kill the men who 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;enslave women." "Where the world's most indiscriminate 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;bombers are bombed by the world's most accurate ones." 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;"Where the largest number of poor people applaud the 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;bombing of their own regime." I could go on. (I think 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;number four may need a little work.) But there are 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;some suggested contrasts for the "doves" to paste into 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;their scrapbook. Incidentally, when they look at their 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;scrapbooks they will be able to re-read themselves 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;saying things like, "The bombing of Kosovo is driving 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;the Serbs into the arms of Milosevic." 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;If the silly policy of a Ramadan pause had been 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;adopted, the citizens of Kabul would have still been 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;under a regime of medieval cruelty, and their 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;oppresssors would have been busily regrouping, not 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;praying. Anyhow, what a damn-fool proposal to start 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;with. I don't stop insulting the Christian coalition 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;at Eastertime. Come Yom Kippur I tend to step up my 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;scornful remarks about Zionism. Whatever happened to 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;the robust secularism that used to help characterise 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;the left? And why is it suddenly only the injured 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;feelings of Muslims that count? A couple of years ago, 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;the same people were striking pompous attitudes about 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;the need to avoid offending Serbian and therefore 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Russian Orthodox sensitivities. Except that those 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;sensitive people, or their leaders, were engaged in 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;putting the Muslims of Europe to the sword... 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;There's no pleasing some people, but as a charter 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;supporter of CND I can remember a time when the peace 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;movement was not an auxiliary to dictators and 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;aggressors in trouble. Looking at some of the 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;mind-rotting tripe that comes my way from much of 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;today's left, I get the impression that they go to bed 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;saying: what have I done for Saddam Hussein or good 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;old Slobodan or the Taliban today? 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Well, ha ha ha, and yah, boo. It was obvious from the 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;very start that the United States had no alternative 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;but to do what it has done. It was also obvious that 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;defeat was impossible. The Taliban will soon be 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;history. Al-Qaida will take longer. There will be 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;other mutants to fight. But if, as the peaceniks like 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;to moan, more Bin Ladens will spring up to take his 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;place, I can offer this assurance: should that be the 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;case, there are many many more who will also spring up 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;to kill him all over again. And there are more of us 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;and we are both smarter and nicer, as well as 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;surprisingly insistent that our culture demands 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;respect, too. 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;· Christopher Hitchens is a columnist for Vanity Fair. 
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