Fw: Germans Read How U.S. Gov't Lies

[Jim Baldauf]

> > INTERVIEW OF GERMAN MINISTER
> > RIPS 9-11 CASE WIDE OPEN
> >
> >
> > > The following interview with Von Buelow appeared in the German daily
> > > 'Tagesspiegel,' on Jan. 13.
> > >
> > > Q: You seem so angry, really upset.
> > >
> > > Von Buelow: I can explain what's bothering me: I see that after the
> > > horrifying attacks of Sept. 11, all political public opinion is being
> > > forced into a direction that I consider wrong.
> > >
> > > Q: What do you mean by that?
> > >
> > > Von Buelow: I wonder why many questions are not asked. Normally, with
> > > such a terrible thing, various leads and tracks appear that are then
> > > commented on, by the investigators, the media, the
> > > government: Is there something here or not? Are the explanations
> > > plausible? This time, this is not the case at all. It already began
just
> > > hours after the attacks in New York and Washington and--
> > >
> > > Q: In those hours, there was horror, and grief.
> > >
> > > Von Buelow: Right, but actually it was astounding: There are 26
> > > intelligence services in the U.S.A. with a budget of $30
> > > billion--
> > >
> > > Q: More than the German defense budget.
> > >
> > > Von Buelow: --which were not able to prevent the attacks. In fact,
they
> > > didn't even have an inkling they would happen. For 60 decisive
minutes,
> > > the military and intelligence agencies let the fighter planes stay on
> > > the ground, 48 hours later, however, the FBI presented a list of
suicide
> > > attackers. Within ten days, it emerged that seven of them were still
> > > alive.
> > >
> > > Q: What, please?
> > >
> > > Von Buelow: Yes, yes. And why did the FBI chief take no position
> > > regarding contradictions? Where the list came from, why it was false?
If
> > > I were the chief investigator (state attorney) in such a case, I would
> > > regularly go to the public, and give information on which leads are
> > > valid and which not.
> > >
> > > Q: The U.S. government talked about an emergency situation after the
> > > attacks: They said they were in a war. Is it not
> > > understandable that one does not tell the enemy everything one knows
> > > about him?
> > >
> > > Von Buelow: Naturally. But a government which goes to war, must first
> > > establish who the attacker, the enemy, is. It has a duty to provide
> > > evidence. According to its own admission, it has not been able to
> > > present any evidence that would hold up in court.
> > >
> > > Q: Some information on the perpetrators has been proven with
documents.
> > > The suspected leader, Mohammad Atta, left Portland for Boston on the
> > > morning of Sept. 11, in order to board the plane that later hit the
> > > World Trade Center
> > >
> > > Von Buelow: If this Atta was the decisive man in the operation, it's
> > > really strange that he took such a risk of taking a plane that would
> > > reach Boston such a short time before the connecting flight. Had his
> > > flight been a few minutes late, he would not have been in the plane
that
> > > was hijacked. Why should a sophisticated terrorist do this? One can,
by
> > > the way, read on CNN
> > > (Internet) that none of these names were on the official passenger
> > > lists. None of them had gone through the check-in procedures. And why
> > > did none of the threatened pilots give the agreed-upon code 7700 over
> > > the [Steuerknueppel: STEERING NOB?] to the ground station? In
addition:
> > > The black boxes which are fire and shock proof, as well as the voice
> > > recordings, contain no valuable data--
> > >
> > > Q: That sounds like--
> > >
> > > Von Buelow: --like assailants who, in their preparations, leave tracks
> > > behind them like a herd of stampeding elephants? They made payments
with
> > > credit cards with their own names; they reported to their flight
> > > instructors with their own names. They left behind rented cars with
> > > flight manuals in Arabic for jumbo jets. They took with them, on their
> > > suicide trip, wills and farewell letters, which fall into the hands of
> > > the FBI, because they were stored in the wrong place and wrongly
> > > addressed. Clues were left like behind like in a child's game of
> > > hide-and-seek, which were to be followed!
> > >
> > > There is also the theory of one British flight engineer:
> > >
> > > According to this, the steering of the planes was perhaps taken out of
> > > the pilots' hands, from outside.
> > >
> > > The Americans had developed a method in the 1970s, whereby they could
> > > rescue hijacked planes by intervening into the computer piloting
> > > [automatic pilot system]. This theory says, this technique was abused
in
> > > this case. That's a theory....
> > >
> > > Q: Which sounds really adventurous, and was never considered.
> > >
> > > Von Buelow: You see! I do not accept this theory, but I find it worth
> > > considering. And what about the obscure stock transactions? In the
week
> > > prior to the attacks, the amount of transactions in stocks in American
> > > Airlines, United Airlines, and insurance companies, increased 1,200%.
It
> > > was for a value of $15 billion. Some people must have known something.
> > > Who?
> > >
> > > Q: Why don't you speculate on who it might have been.
> > >
> > > Von Buelow: With the help of the horrifying attacks, the Western mass
> > > democracies were subjected to brainwashing. The enemy image of
> > > anti-communism doesn't work any more; it is to be replaced by peoples
of
> > > Islamic belief. They are accused of having given birth to suicidal
> > > terrorism.
> > >
> > > Q: Brainwashing? That's a tough term.
> > >
> > > Von Buelow: Yes? But the idea of the enemy image doesn't come from me.
> > > It comes from Zbigniew Brzezinski and Samuel Huntington, two
> > > policy-makers of American intelligence and foreign policy. Already in
> > > the middle of he 1990s, Huntingon believed, people in Europe and the
> > > U.S. needed someone they could hate-- this would strengthen their
> > > identification with their own society. And Brzezinski, the mad dog, as
> > > adviser to President Jimmy Carter, campaigned for the exclusive right
of
> > > the U.S. to seize all the raw materials of the world, especially oil
and
> > > gas.
> > >
> > > Q: You mean, the events of Sept. 11--
> > >
> > > Von Buelow: --fit perfectly in the concept of the armaments industry,
> > > the intelligence agencies, the whole military-industrial-academic
> > > complex. This is in fact conspicuous. The huge raw materials reserves
of
> > > the former Soviet Union are now at their disposal, also the pipeline
> > > routes and--
> > >
> > > Q: Erich Follach described that at length in {Spiegel}: ``It's a
matter
> > > of military bases, drugs, oil and gas reserves.''
> > >
> > > Von Buelow: I can state: the planning of the attacks was technically
and
> > > organizationally a master achievement. To hijack four huge airplanes
> > > within a few minutes and within one hour, to drive them into their
> > > targets, with complicated flight maneuvers! This is unthinkable,
without
> > > years-long support from secretapparatuses of the state and industry.
> > >
> > > Q: You are a conspiracy theorist!
> > >
> > > Von Buelow: Yeah, yeah. That's the ridicule heaped [on those raising
> > > these questions] by those who would prefer to follow the official,
> > > politically correct line. Even investigative journalists are fed
> > > propaganda and disinformation. Anyone who doubts that, doesn't have
all
> > > his marbles! That is your accusation.
> > >
> > > Q: Your career actually speaks against the idea that you are not in
your
> > > right mind. You were already in the 1970s, state secretary in the
> > > Defense Ministry; in 1993 you were the SPD [Social Democratic Party]
> > > speaker in the Schalk-Golodkowski investigation committee--
> > >
> > > Von Buelow: And it all began there! Until that time, I did not have
any
> > > great knowledge of the work of intelligence agencies. And now we had
to
> > > take note of a great discrepancy: We shed light on the dealings of the
> > > Stasi and other East bloc intelligence agencies in the field of
economic
> > > criminality, but as soon as we wanted to know something about the
> > > activities of the BND [German intelligence] or the CIA, it was
> > > mercilessly blocked. No information, no cooperation, nothing! That's
> > > when I was first taken aback.
> > >
> > > Q: Schalck-Golodkowski mediated, among other things, various business
> > > deals abroad. When you looked at his case more
> > > closely--
> > >
> > > Von Buelow: We found, for example, a clue in Rostock, where Schalck
> > > organized his weapons depot. Well, then we happened upon an
affiliation
> > > of Schalck in Panama, and then we happened upon Manuel Noriega, who
was
> > > for many years President, drug dealer, and money launderer, all in
one,
> > > right? And this Noriega was also on the payroll of the CIA, for
$200,000
> > > a year. These were things that really made me curious.
> > >
> > > Q: You wrote a book on the dealings of the CIA and Co. In the
meantime,
> > > you have become an expert regarding the strange things related to
> > > intelligence services' work.
> > >
> > > Von Buelow: ``Strange things'' is the wrong term. What has gone on,
and
> > > goes on, in the name of intelligence services, are true crimes.
> > >
> > > Q: What would you say determines the work of intelligence services?
> > >
> > > Von Buelow: So that we don't have any misunderstandings: I find that
it
> > > makes sense to have intelligence services....
> > >
> > > Q: You don't think much of the earlier proposals by the Greens, who
> > > wanted to dismantle these agencies?
> > >
> > > Von Buelow: No. It is right to take a look behind the scenes. Getting
> > > intelligence about the intentions of an enemy, makes sense. It is
> > > important when one tries to put oneself into the mind of the enemy.
> > > Whoever wants to understand the CIA's methods, has to deal with its
main
> > > tasks, {covert operations}: below the level of war, and outside
> > > international law, foreign states are to be influenced, by organizing
> > > insurrections, terrorist attacks, usually combined with drugs and
> > > weapons trade, and money laundering. This is essentially very simple:
> > > One arms violent people with weapons. Since, however, it must not
under
> > > any circumstances come out, that there is an intelligence agency
behind
> > > it, all traces are erased, with tremendous deployment of resources.
> > >
> > > I have the impression that this kind of intelligence agency spends 90%
> > > of its time this way: creating false leads. So that, if anyone
suspects
> > > the collaboration of the agencies, he is accused of the sickness of
> > > conspiracy madness. The truth often comes out only years later. CIA
> > > chief Allen Dulles once said: In case of doubt, I would even lie to
the
> > > Congress!
> > >
> > > Q: The American journalist Seymour M. Hersh, wrote in the {New
Yorker,}
> > > that even some people in the CIA and government assumed, that certain
> > > leads had been laid in order to confuse the investigators. Who, Herr
von
> > > Buelow, would have done this?
> > >
> > > Von Buelow: I don't know that either. How should I? I simply use my
> > > common sense, and-- See: The terrorists behaved in such a way to
attract
> > > attention. And as practicing Muslims, they were in a strip-tease bar,
> > > and, drunken, stuck dollar bills into the panty of the dancer.
> > >
> > > Q: Things like that also happen.
> > >
> > > Von Buelow: It may be. As a lone fighter, I cannot prove anything,
> > > that's beyond my capabilities. I have real difficulties, however, to
> > > imagine that all this all sprung out ofthe mind of an evil man in his
> > > cave.
> > >
> > > Q: Mr. von Buelow, you yourself say that you are alone in your
> > > criticism. Formerly, you were part of the political establishment, now
> > > you are an outsider.
> > >
> > > Von Buelow: That is a problem sometimes, but one gets used to it. By
the
> > > way, I know a lot of people, including very influential ones, who
agree
> > > with me, but only in whispers, never publicly.
> > >
> > > Q: Do you still have contact with old SPD companions, such as Egon
Bahr
> > > and former Chancellor Helmut Schmidt?
> > >
> > > Von Buelow: There are no close contacts any more. I wantedto go to the
> > > last SPD party congress, but I was sick.
> > >
> > > Q: Can it be, Mr. von Buelow, that you are a mouthpiece for typical
> > > anti-Americanism?
> > >
> > > Von Buelow: Nonsense, this has absolutely nothing to do with
> > > anti-Americanism. I am a great admirer of this great, open, free
> > > society, and always have been. I studied in the U.S.
> > >
> > > Q: How did you get the idea that there could be a link between the
> > > attacks and the American intelligence agencies?
> > >
> > > Von Buelow: Do you remember the first attack on the WorldTrade Center
in
> > > 1993?
> > >
> > > Q: Six people were killed and over a thousand wounded, by a bomb
> > > explosion.
> > >
> > > Von Buelow: In the middle was the bombmaker, a former Egyptian
officer.
> > > He had pulled together some Muslims for the attack. They were snuck
into
> > > the country by the CIA, despite a State Department ban on their entry.
> > > At the same time, the leader of the band was an FBI informant.
> > >
> > > And he made a deal with the authorities: At the last minute, the
> > > dangerous explosive material would be replaced by a harmless powder.
> > >
> > > The FBI did not stick to the deal. The bomb exploded, so to speak,
with
> > > the knowledge of the FBI. The official story of the crime was quickly
> > > found: The criminals were evil Muslims.
> > >
> > > Q: At the time Soviet soldiers marched into Afghanistan, you were in
the
> > > cabinet of Helmut Schmidt. What was it like?
> > >
> > > Von Buelow: The Americans pushed for trade sanctions, they demanded
the
> > > boycott of the Olympic games in Moscow....
> > >
> > > Q.... which the German government followed...
> > >
> > > Von Buelow: And today we know: It was the strategy of the American
> > > security adviser, Zbigniew Brzezinski, to destabilize the Soviet Union
> > > from neighboring Muslim countries They lured the Russians into
> > > Afghanistan, and then prepared for them a hell on earth, their
Vietnam.
> > > With decisive support of the U.S. intelligence agencies, at least
30,000
> > > Muslim fighters were trained in Afghanistan and Pakistan, a bunch of
> > > good-for-nothings and fanatics who were, and still are today, ready
for
> > > anything.
> > >
> > > And one of them is Osama bin Laden. I wrote years ago: ` `It was out
of
> > > this brood, that the Taliban grew up in Afghanistan, who had been
> > > brought up in the Koran schools financed by American and Saudi funds,
> > > the Taliban who are now terrorizing the country and destroying it
> > >
> > > Q: Even though you say, for the U.S. it was a matter of raw materials
in
> > > the region, the starting point for the U.S. aggression, was the
> > > terrorist attack which cost thousands of human lives.
> > >
> > > Von Buelow: Completely true. One must always keep this gruesome act in
> > > mind. Nonetheless, in the analysis of political processes, I am
allowed
> > > to look and see who has advantages and disadvantages, and what is
> > > coincidental. When in doubt, it is always worthwhile to take a look at
a
> > > map, where are raw materials resources, and the routes to them? Then
lay
> > > a map of civil wars and conflicts on top of that --they coincide. The
> > > same is the case with the third map: nodal points of the drug trade.
> > >
> > > Where this all comes together, the American intelligence services are
> > > not far away. By the way, the Bush family is linked to oil, gas, and
> > > weapons trade, through the bin Laden family.
> > >
> > > Q: What do you think of the Bin Laden films?
> > >
> > > Von Buelow: When one is dealing with intelligence services, one can
> > > imagine manipulations of the highest quality. Hollywood could provide
> > > these techniques. I consider the videos inappropriate as evidence.
> > >
> > > Q: You believe the CIA is capable of anything, [wouldn't stop at
> > > anything].
> > >
> > > Von Buelow: The CIA, in the state interests of the U.S., does not have
> > > to abide by any law in interventions abroad, is not bound by
> > > international law; only the President gives orders.
> > >
> > > And when funds are cut, peace is on the horizon, then a bomb explodes
> > > somewhere. Thus it is proven, that you can't do without the
intelligence
> > > services; and that the critics are {nuts,} as Father Bush called them,
> > > Bush who was once CIA head and President.
> > >
> > > You have to see that the U.S. spends $30 billion on intelligence
> > > services, and $13 billion on anti-drug work. And what comes out of it?
> > >
> > > The chief of a special unit of the strategic anti-drug work declared,
in
> > > despair, after 30 years of service, that in every big, important drug
> > > case, the CIA came in and took it out of my hands.
> > > (Rosalinda: Michael Levin)
> > >
> > > Q: Do you criticize the German government for its reaction after Sept.
> > > 11?
> > >
> > > Von Buelow: No. To assume that the government were independent in
these
> > > questions, would be naive.
> > >
> > > Q: Herr von Buelow, what will you do now?
> > >
> > > Von Buelow: Nothing. My task is concluded by saying, it could not have
> > > been that way [according to the official story] Search for the truth!
> > >
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