let's try to do nuance
Pepi Plowman
austin-ghetto-list@pairlist.net
Sun Mar 28 14:30:04 2004
Jon,
Sorry my posts are ununderstandable to you--in the
last one, the stories about being burned in the ovens
and being a Buddhist monk are past lifetimes--the part
about my sister and I being born in a prison camp in
the Philippines and her living in Israel for eight
years took place in this lifetime and is no fantasy.
Insofar as racism and ethnicism is concerned--it's
true, it's available to all, especially if one has no
experience of other cultures. I was raped (and so was
my little sister, Gayle) by black men and I made it a
goal to not become a racist because of it. If
anything as regards black people, I am a reverse
racist, because I esteem so much about them. I hung
out mostly with African Americans when I lived in
Berkeley because I felt more comfortable with them.
pep
--- Jon Ford <jonmfordster@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Pepi-- I want you to know that I can read pretty
> well and I tried hard to
> read your last post, but you are so psychic you
> don't seem to know fantasy
> from reality. I can't tell which part of your
> family's bio is
> reincarnation-tales, which is fantasy or weird
> family stories somewhat
> varnished by time,
> which is just sheer crank-talk. But I do know that I
> didn't intend to insult
> you or call you or your sister a racist in my post
> to Mike E. I was talking
> in general of such bunk as "Israelis are
> reincarnated
> Nazis" and where such thoughts evolve from, how they
> are related to other
> thoughts such a false analogy as "Zionism is
> Fascism". I wanted to open the
> discussion into a more general sense of illogic and
> mental infection by
> slogans. On the other hand, the comments Mike
> recently made about the
> difficulty of total acceptance of people of other
> races/cultures rings true.
> There is always a trace of "difference" in our
> dealings with people of other
> cultures and ethnicities; we can suppress these
> feelings and try to be
> totally one with all the world, but in the long run,
> it's better to
> acknowledge the little bit of unconscious racism we
> all carry around in us.
> Acknowledging it won't make it go away, but it may
> prevent it from biting us
> in the butt or coming back to us inr dreams and
> bizarre fantasies about
> reincarnation.
>
> Jon
>
>
> >From: Pepi Plowman <pepstoil@yahoo.com>
> >Reply-To: austin-ghetto-list@pairlist.net
> >To: austin-ghetto-list@pairlist.net
> >Subject: Re: let's try to do nuance
> >Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2004 12:58:22 -0800 (PST)
> >
> >Mike, this is getting ridiculous! I really
> can't
> >answer questions that have no basis in any
> knowledge
> >other than a set-in-stone, vituperative point of
> view.
> > So rather than answer your questions, I will
> tell you
> >a little bit about myself and my sisters.
> >
> >First of all, the Plowman girls are all pretty
> >consciously psychic. Which is to say, we are
> privy to
> >circumstances, feelings, vibes, future events,
> AND
> >past ones, by virtue of staying in touch with
> that
> >part of ourselves. It can happen in waking life
> as
> >well as in the dream world. I would think that
> >everyone has this same capacity, but most don't
> access
> >it. With good reason. Sometimes it can be
> scary.
> >
> >Two of my sisters, the one in question, as well
> as
> >another, believe they were burned in the ovens
> as Jews
> >in their lifetime immediately previous to this
> one.
> >I, however, was a Buddhist monk, traveling on
> the
> >Asian island I lived on. We had camped in a
> bombed
> >out temple for the night. I hated women in that
> >lifetime, considering them the lowest of the
> low,
> >which accounts for my having the sexism problem
> I have
> >in this lifetime. I perceive myself as a man in
> a
> >woman's body, but I'm a homosexual man, so I
> love men.
> > Sounds weird, I know. But anyway, we were
> bombed
> >again in that temple, and I went skyrocketing up
> to
> >come down, very ambivalently, I might add, into
> my
> >mother's womb in the Philippines. My parents
> spent
> >four years in the Philippines in a Japanese
> prison
> >camp where both I and my older sister were born.
> >
> >This same older sister emigrated to Israel as a
> Jew.
> >She lived in Eilat for eight years and taught in
> >kubbutzi, speaks Hebrew (I'll be YOU don't!),
> had a
> >beautiful girl child by an Iraqi Jew whom she
> adored.
> >I would say, if anything, my sisters are
> products of
> >my parents' view--having known people from the
> world
> >over--they love ALL people.
> >
> >My mother lived in Japan for seven years
> previous to
> >WWII and corresponded after the war with many
> Japanese
> >friends she had there. She returned in the 80s
> to
> >Japan to see them again and stayed for two
> years.
> >This is after having been virtually starved to
> death
> >by them. They ate slugs fried in cold cream,
> >grasshoppers, anything they could get their
> hands on.
> >My father weighed 75 lbs. when we were
> liberated.
> >
> >Hate is too ennervating an emotion to allow
> oneself to
> >indulge in. I, personally, am estranged from
> it,
> >thankfully. I may not be thrilled with cops (or
> >authority of any kind), but that's just because
> I'm a
> >hardhead and can't stand people telling me what
> to
> >do--but hate? I don't think so.
> >
> >Please know that there are a million ways to
> skin a
> >cat, a million points of view, not one of them
> the
> >"truth", except to the person who
> perceives them.
> >Your truth is yours and you're entitled to it.
> My
> >truth is mine and I'm entitled to it. You can
> call it
> >what you like, I can call yours what I like, but
> will
> >that really change anything or make any kind of
> >difference? I think not. Rather than engage in
> a
> >useless badinage, let's just be who we are and
> allow
> >others the same.
> >
> >But may you not hate too much, it's bad for the
> soul
> >(I know, you don't believe in its existence.
> Oh,
> >well, so be it).
> >
> >Pepi
> >--- Michael Eisenstadt
> <michaele@ando.pair.com> wrote:
> > > Pepi wrote:
> > >
> > > > Jon and Mike,
> > > >
> > > > Think what you like. It's obvious
> you can't read.
> > > I
> > > > NEVER said that Israelis are reborn
> Nazis--my
> > > SISTER
> > > > did.
> > >
> > > Then your sister is a good hater. Are you
> proud of
> > > her?
> > >
> > > Did you quote her because you didn't agree
> with the
> > > thought?
> > >
> > > Or did you quote her because you did
> agree?
> > >
> > > In one of your posts you asked me how do I
> know the
> > > Israelis are not reborn Nazis. What were
> you getting
> > > at?
> > >
>
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