let's try to do nuance

[Jon Ford]

Pepi-- I want you to know that I can read pretty well and I tried hard to 
read your last post, but you are so psychic you don't seem to know fantasy 
from reality. I can't tell which part of your family's bio is 
reincarnation-tales, which is fantasy or weird family stories somewhat 
varnished by time,
which is just sheer crank-talk. But I do know that I didn't intend to insult 
you or call you or your sister a racist  in my post to Mike E. I was talking 
in general of such bunk as "Israelis are reincarnated
Nazis" and where such thoughts evolve from, how they are related to other 
thoughts such a false analogy as "Zionism is Fascism". I wanted to open the 
discussion into a more general sense of illogic and mental infection by 
slogans. On the other hand, the comments Mike recently  made about the 
difficulty of total acceptance of people of other races/cultures rings true. 
There is always a trace of "difference" in our dealings with people of other 
cultures and ethnicities; we can suppress these feelings and try to be 
totally one with all the world, but in the long run, it's better to 
acknowledge the little bit of unconscious racism we all carry around in us. 
Acknowledging it won't make it go away, but it may prevent it from biting us 
in the butt or coming back to us inr dreams and bizarre fantasies about 
reincarnation.

Jon


>From: Pepi Plowman <pepstoil@yahoo.com>
>Reply-To: austin-ghetto-list@pairlist.net
>To: austin-ghetto-list@pairlist.net
>Subject: Re: let's try to do nuance
>Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2004 12:58:22 -0800 (PST)
>
>Mike, this is getting ridiculous!  I really can't
>answer questions that have no basis in any knowledge
>other than a set-in-stone, vituperative point of view.
>  So rather than answer your questions, I will tell you
>a little bit about myself and my sisters.
>
>First of all, the Plowman girls are all pretty
>consciously psychic.  Which is to say, we are privy to
>circumstances, feelings, vibes, future events, AND
>past ones, by virtue of staying in touch with that
>part of ourselves.  It can happen in waking life as
>well as in the dream world.  I would think that
>everyone has this same capacity, but most don't access
>it.  With good reason.  Sometimes it can be scary.
>
>Two of my sisters, the one in question, as well as
>another, believe they were burned in the ovens as Jews
>in their lifetime immediately previous to this one.
>I, however, was a Buddhist monk, traveling on the
>Asian island I lived on.  We had camped in a bombed
>out temple for the night.  I hated women in that
>lifetime, considering them the lowest of the low,
>which accounts for my having the sexism problem I have
>in this lifetime.  I perceive myself as a man in a
>woman's body, but I'm a homosexual man, so I love men.
>  Sounds weird, I know.  But anyway, we were bombed
>again in that temple, and I went skyrocketing up to
>come down, very ambivalently, I might add, into my
>mother's womb in the Philippines.  My parents spent
>four years in the Philippines in a Japanese prison
>camp where both I and my older sister were born.
>
>This same older sister emigrated to Israel as a Jew.
>She lived in Eilat for eight years and taught in
>kubbutzi, speaks Hebrew (I'll be YOU don't!), had a
>beautiful girl child by an Iraqi Jew whom she adored.
>I would say, if anything, my sisters are products of
>my parents' view--having known people from the world
>over--they love ALL people.
>
>My mother lived in Japan for seven years previous to
>WWII and corresponded after the war with many Japanese
>friends she had there.  She returned in the 80s to
>Japan to see them again and stayed for two years.
>This is after having been virtually starved to death
>by them.  They ate slugs fried in cold cream,
>grasshoppers, anything they could get their hands on.
>My father weighed 75 lbs. when we were liberated.
>
>Hate is too ennervating an emotion to allow oneself to
>indulge in.  I, personally, am estranged from it,
>thankfully.  I may not be thrilled with cops (or
>authority of any kind), but that's just because I'm a
>hardhead and can't stand people telling me what to
>do--but hate? I don't think so.
>
>Please know that there are a million ways to skin a
>cat, a million points of view, not one of them the
>"truth", except to the person who perceives them.
>Your truth is yours and you're entitled to it.  My
>truth is mine and I'm entitled to it.  You can call it
>what you like, I can call yours what I like, but will
>that really change anything or make any kind of
>difference? I think not.  Rather than engage in a
>useless badinage, let's just be who we are and allow
>others the same.
>
>But may you not hate too much, it's bad for the soul
>(I know, you don't believe in its existence.  Oh,
>well, so be it).
>
>Pepi
>--- Michael Eisenstadt <michaele@ando.pair.com> wrote:
> > Pepi wrote:
> >
> > > Jon and Mike,
> > >
> > > Think what you like.  It's obvious you can't read.
> >  I
> > > NEVER said that Israelis are reborn Nazis--my
> > SISTER
> > > did.
> >
> > Then your sister is a good hater. Are you proud of
> > her?
> >
> > Did you quote her because you didn't agree with the
> > thought?
> >
> > Or did you quote her because you did agree?
> >
> > In one of your posts you asked me how do I know the
> > Israelis are not reborn Nazis. What were you getting
> > at?
> >
> > And then there is a subscriber who, in Oprah speak,
> > urged
> > you to Go girl!
> >
> > Go and do what? Express other slurs against those
> > people
> > (you know who)?
> >
> > The Oprah speak subscriber, apparently referring to
> > me,
> > speaks of my agenda.
> >
> > I aint got no fucken agenda. Maybe he's got an
> > agendum.
> > Tell us, oh Oprah speaker!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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